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To: G. Stolyarov II

Better yet. My friends VW Golf TDI diesel regularly gets 50mpg at highway speeds.... 75 mph in Utah. No hybrid can do that.

The future is turbo diesels... not hybrids.


4 posted on 06/06/2006 6:19:16 PM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Seruzawa

add HPDI 2-stroke engines to that list.


11 posted on 06/06/2006 6:28:03 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Seruzawa
My 2003 VW Jetta TDI 5-speed ALWAYS gets at least 51 mpg and a best of 58.75 mpg. With over 108,000 miles on the little beast.

The VW too, come at a premium over the gas VW's, but it is worth it to me ... simple technology, no huge batteries to replace for $4-5,000 every 80K miles. Just change the oil (synthetic) & rotate the tires every 5K, fuel/air filter ever 10K miles and your all set.
21 posted on 06/06/2006 6:33:49 PM PDT by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDuce = M2HB .50 BMG))
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To: Seruzawa

Why wont Ford release their diesel in this country?


38 posted on 06/06/2006 6:44:18 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Seruzawa
Better yet. My friends VW Golf TDI diesel regularly gets 50mpg at highway speeds.... 75 mph in Utah. No hybrid can do that. The future is turbo diesels... not hybrids.

I agree. Those VW diesels are awesome cars. Besides, I know that in a worst case scenario mine will run on stuff you don't have to get at a gas station.
61 posted on 06/06/2006 7:14:45 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Seruzawa

The sucky part is the higher price of diesel.


65 posted on 06/06/2006 7:21:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Seruzawa

The future might be in a diesel-electric hybrid ... diesel motor turns at a fixed rpm to recharge the batteries ... the potential for 100 mpg is NOT outside the realm of possibility.


104 posted on 06/06/2006 8:29:52 PM PDT by sono ("Why can't we deport them? Mexico did." J Leno)
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To: Seruzawa; G. Stolyarov II

<< Better yet. My friends VW Golf TDI diesel regularly gets 50mpg at highway speeds.... 75 mph in Utah. No hybrid can do that.

The future is turbo diesels... not hybrids. >>

The future is more than twenty years ago when I bought my first of the many European turbo diesels I have owned.

A Merc turbo diesel from back then, even, would get almost 40 MPG while cruising all day at 25% over even the Montana speed limit [Then as fast as you were willing to go knowing that if you were caught you'd be fined $5.00, literally on the spot, for possibly pissing off the Jimmah Cartah liberals by "using too much gas"] as would my wife's early 80s Peugeot turbo diesel.

Modern European turbo diesels get more than 60 MPG as a matter of course.


109 posted on 06/06/2006 8:45:40 PM PDT by Brian Allen (All that is required to ensure the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Seruzawa
The future is turbo diesels... not hybrids.

Do you know of a turbo diesel in a small or mid sized pick up truck? That would be ideal (for me anyway).

123 posted on 06/06/2006 9:35:00 PM PDT by kstewskis (Blessed are those who can give without remembering, and take without forgetting.)
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To: Seruzawa
The future is turbo diesels... not hybrids.

I'm starting to come to the same conclusion. The hybrids are nice, but I think turbo diesel, or perhaps even diesel electric are technologies that have a solid track record and would be easier to implement.

Too bad the envirowackos seem to have it out for diesel. My friend in California had to practically pull teeth to find a Jetta TDI a few years ago.

I've heard Mercedes is working on a new BlueTec diesel technology. I'd be personally interested in a C-class with a turbodiesel in a few years if it was available. I think the interest is out there among Americans.

142 posted on 06/07/2006 6:17:29 AM PDT by Crolis ("Good fences make good neighbors.", Robert Frost)
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To: Seruzawa

Agreed TDI is more economical and greener than anything hybrid.. but government has latched on to Hybrids... which is stupid.


154 posted on 06/07/2006 9:42:01 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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