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The End of Liquidity
Daily Reconing ^ | 6/6/2006 | Bill Bonner

Posted on 06/06/2006 12:25:55 PM PDT by ex-Texan

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To: Marxbites
" Just because the progressives co-opted liberal for themselves as a guise, doesn't mean that the Founders were not liberals, they of course were real classical liberals who eschewed the oppressive state, and instead wrote our constitution of liberty of limited Govt with few enumerated powers."

Thanks for the suggestion on the tag line change.

You are 99% correct on a lot of the founding fathers' viewpoints upon the concept of Liberty, and I agree.

However, as a matter of disagreement, (with a good slathering of political correctness) I'll keep my personal current definition on Liberalism.

I do equate Liberalism, to some degree, to those who lean heavily upon Socialism, Communism, Marxism, Elitist Totalitarian Oligarchies, and always preach tolerance but never practice it or truly understand it.

41 posted on 06/06/2006 1:33:16 PM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: OB1kNOb
I believe the Moderators can tell who posted the keywords.

Not that they are going to give a flip, since most of them (except the "EXTEXANSUCKS" one) are clearly in the vein of commentary for which FR exists in the first place.

42 posted on 06/06/2006 1:38:10 PM PDT by steve-b (Hoover Dam is every bit as "natural" as a beaver dam.)
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To: ex-Texan

"You are behind the times. The bubble has already burst. Prices in New Jersey have fallen between 12.5 to 28% since May 19th. Prices in about fifteen counties in N. California have fallen about 10% - 12%. Now watch closely as real estate prices fall all across the country."

I am closing on a sale next wednesday...all I need is for the world not to end before then...


43 posted on 06/06/2006 1:39:04 PM PDT by Jim Verdolini (We had it all, but the RINOs stalked the land and everything they touched was as dung and ashes!)
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To: ex-Texan

Hey, I've been here a long time and I didn't even know posters could add keywords...


44 posted on 06/06/2006 1:50:14 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: RSmithOpt

Thanks & OK. Heck I'm a nobody, but how about "new liberalism"?

If you are interested in American Banking history and the dupers behind it all, I just found this and from the first few pages, it is dynomite! I search out for posting here those things never mentioned and rarely seen in the MSM and the Academy of new left "intellectuals" financed to "think right" by the Rockefeller interests thru "philanthropies" for the last 100 years.

Give it a try and let me know what you think.

"The Separation of Commercial and Investment Banking: The Morgans vs. the Rockefellers"
http://www.mises.org/journals/qjae/pdf/qjae1_1_1.pdf


45 posted on 06/06/2006 1:57:14 PM PDT by Marxbites (Freedom is the negation of Govt to the maximum extent possible. Today, Govt is the economy's virus.)
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To: ex-Texan

blame Bush.

Seriously, I am not happy about rates going up but none of us want to see a replay of the Nixon-Ford-Carter years when adjustable mortgages were at 12% and inflation was out of control.

Maybe it's time to convert to cash. Gold is tempting, but most commodities are also overpriced these days.


46 posted on 06/06/2006 2:10:55 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: ex-Texan
Bonner used to live in France. In France if you make your money in US it is free of taxes. He used to subtly tell others how to do the same thing--beat the US out of taxes.

I don't know if he still lives in France and has established residence there. Apparently, selling a newsletter in the US does not require much familiarity with day to day living in the US.

47 posted on 06/06/2006 2:30:55 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: KingofZion
Actually, the DOJ knows more about what happened that they are willing to say. They are hard at work investigating. Mortgage lenders made major money. Local mortgage brokers controlled by the mob made lots of money. Real estate is a great way to launder illegal profits and drug money. Nobody even looks twice at real estate loans. Appraisers were getting rich through bribes. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had much to do with it. Mortgage bonds sold on Wall Street had everything to do with it. Derivatives sold through the Big Boys that control the flow of capital into and out of the U.S. The Big Boys make money on every transaction. Buying and selling in up and down markets.

One of these days, people will start to wise up. But not in my life time. "Greed is good," Gordon Gecko. It was not Bush's fault.

48 posted on 06/06/2006 2:31:39 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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To: ex-Texan

I don't believe it either.

There is going to be tremendous growth in Asis....India and China. We as Americans are preferred because we work hard and have stuff they want and need.

This means growth. Demand will fuel the markets.


49 posted on 06/06/2006 2:35:42 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The word "pipe" in French is slang for "penis".

That piece of art was not as absurd as it might look to someone who didn't know that.


50 posted on 06/06/2006 2:37:07 PM PDT by Philistone (Turning lead into gold...)
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To: ex-Texan
In Capitalism, greed is good. But it will, and always is, counterbalanced. You remind me of my father who's been trying to time the gold market for years.

For someone trying to time a market or predict what the market will do, you tend to listen to everything in an echo chamber. As long as it says what you are predicting, you'll shout it to the rooftops. If it contradicts you, you'll keep it quiet or work to defeat the opinion.

EVENTUALLY, the housing "bubble", as you call it, will pop. EVENTUALLY, gold will be over $1000/oz. But, trying to hazard a guess on "when and where" and betting in that direction is a foolish move at best.

Moderation is the key and making sound decisions. Timing markets is not. Scare tactics is not...unless you want to sell yourself as a prophet or a newsletter.

Housing is not going to crash because too many people depend on it. However, it will cool off in many places in the United States which will, in turn, create a buyers market, which will in turn, bring down the number of houses for sales, which will in turn, increase the demand and limit the supply and ROUND AND ROUND WE GO!

Be prudent, be smart and most of all...do you're own damn research from objective sources without a motive.

51 posted on 06/06/2006 2:47:56 PM PDT by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: Technocrat

The only people making money off the "End of the World" schemes are those selling the schemes.


52 posted on 06/06/2006 3:27:10 PM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: ex-Texan
Actually, the DOJ knows more about what happened that they are willing to say. They are hard at work investigating. Mortgage lenders made major money. Local mortgage brokers controlled by the mob made lots of money. Real estate is a great way to launder illegal profits and drug money. Nobody even looks twice at real estate loans. Appraisers were getting rich through bribes. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had much to do with it. Mortgage bonds sold on Wall Street had everything to do with it. Derivatives sold through the Big Boys that control the flow of capital into and out of the U.S. The Big Boys make money on every transaction. Buying and selling in up and down markets.

Does the phrase "barking moonbat" have any meaning for you?

53 posted on 06/06/2006 3:29:39 PM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: Petronski

What the heck is with the keywords? I've been a member here since 1998 and this is the first I heard about their relevance. What gives? I never need them to do searches. Why does anybody care?


54 posted on 06/06/2006 3:39:11 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Jim Verdolini

Just wait'll fall. Worse, wait 'till next Spring. It's just gettin' started I'm afraid. We are only seeing the very beginning and really do not know how bad this thing will get.


55 posted on 06/06/2006 3:41:15 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
No, we don't know how bad it will get, or even if it will get bad at all. That doesn't stop some from predicting (reveling in?) a total economic meltdown, though.
56 posted on 06/06/2006 3:54:22 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: VegasCowboy

Or preparing for and warning against.

Funny thing is, to me it is pretty obvious things are going to get bad. The real question is, how bad, and for how long. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, especially if one just looks at the way things went down the last five years or so.


57 posted on 06/06/2006 3:59:01 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: gogeo
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty -- the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom -- go home from us in peace. * * * Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. * * *" -- Samuel Adams

58 posted on 06/06/2006 4:05:08 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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To: ex-Texan

Freepers rarely appreciate any advice on what to do with their own money. Free advice is considered to be rude speech on this forum. Cautionary advice is viwed as chiding. Mentioning your successes is always seen as bragging.

My advice, which is widely thought to be of little value, is to allow them to hit their own bumps on the way down, get the scars you and I already have and let them fight their way back up to the top.


59 posted on 06/06/2006 4:49:47 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: B4Ranch

Advice is one thing. Predictions of economic meltdowns, worldwide depressions and utter doomsday scenarios are often met with derision. Do you really think it is mere "advice" that gets people so fired up?


60 posted on 06/06/2006 5:05:25 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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