[RSmithOpt]

" Just because the progressives co-opted liberal for themselves as a guise, doesn't mean that the Founders were not liberals, they of course were real classical liberals who eschewed the oppressive state, and instead wrote our constitution of liberty of limited Govt with few enumerated powers."

Thanks for the suggestion on the tag line change.

You are 99% correct on a lot of the founding fathers' viewpoints upon the concept of Liberty, and I agree.

However, as a matter of disagreement, (with a good slathering of political correctness) I'll keep my personal current definition on Liberalism.

I do equate Liberalism, to some degree, to those who lean heavily upon Socialism, Communism, Marxism, Elitist Totalitarian Oligarchies, and always preach tolerance but never practice it or truly understand it.

[Marxbites]

Thanks & OK. Heck I'm a nobody, but how about "new liberalism"?

If you are interested in American Banking history and the dupers behind it all, I just found this and from the first few pages, it is dynomite! I search out for posting here those things never mentioned and rarely seen in the MSM and the Academy of new left "intellectuals" financed to "think right" by the Rockefeller interests thru "philanthropies" for the last 100 years.

Give it a try and let me know what you think.

"The Separation of Commercial and Investment Banking: The Morgans vs. the Rockefellers"
http://www.mises.org/journals/qjae/pdf/qjae1_1_1.pdf