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Gay marriage is "eclipse of God": Vatican
Reuters ^ | June 6, 2006 | Philip Pullella

Posted on 06/06/2006 12:16:37 PM PDT by NYer

The Vatican said on Tuesday that gay marriage, abortion, lesbians wanting to bear children and a host of other practices it sees as threats to the traditional family were signs of "the eclipse of God."

A 60-page document, called "Family and Human Procreation," was issued just days after President Bush urged the Senate to pass a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage.

The document strongly restated many of the Roman Catholic Church's positions on sexuality, marriage and life but went further, saying the family today was more endangered than at any time before in history.

"The causes are diverse but the 'eclipse' of God, creator of man, is at the root of the profound current crisis concerning the truth about man, about human procreation and the family," said the document, prepared by the Vatican's Pontifical Council for the Family.

It said the family was under attack around the world, even in traditionally Christian cultures, by what it called "radical currents" proposing new family models.

It listed these threats as homosexual marriages, giving gay couples equal legal recognition as married heterosexuals, lesbians demanding the right to bear children through artificial insemination and gays who want to adopt children.

Bush, in his radio address last weekend, called for a constitutional amendment to keep "activist" judges from overturning efforts by some state legislatures to ban gay marriage.

Gay marriage has been an increasingly divisive issue in the United States since a Massachusetts court ruled in 2003 that the state legislature could not ban it, paving the way for America's first same-sex marriages the following year.

NEW ITALY GOVERNMENT DIVIDED

The issue of gay marriage and the recognition of unwed heterosexual couples is also one that Italy's new centre-left government will likely have to confront.

The coalition of Prime Minister Romano Prodi promises some form of recognition for unmarried couples but has so far stopped short of openly supporting gay marriage as part of its program.

However, some coalition parties back greater rights for homosexuals, including marriage, and the issue is widely expected to surface sooner or later.

Some in the center left support a legal recognition similar to that in France, which in 1999 granted all couples the right to form civil unions and have the right to joint social security, limited inheritance rights and other benefits.

Italy's powerful Roman Catholic Church opposes this.

Since his election last year, Pope Benedict has been accused by some politicians of interfering in domestic affairs by speaking out against gay marriage and legal recognition of unmarried heterosexuals.

Gay unions are already legal in several European countries, including traditionally Catholic Spain. Britain has introduced a law allowing gays to formalize their relationships.

In other parts of the document, the Vatican branded abortion an "abominable crime" and said it was "inconceivable" that it remained unpunished.

Abortion until the third month of pregnancy has been legal in Italy since 1978 but some conservative Catholics want to ban it again.


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HUMANAE VITAE - ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PAUL VI ON THE REGULATION OF BIRTH
1 posted on 06/06/2006 12:16:41 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 06/06/2006 12:20:09 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

The Vatican keeps raising its voice a little higher each time, but no one seems to be listening... The wording seems to get stronger and more urgent with every document.


3 posted on 06/06/2006 12:29:41 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

I'm a non-Catholic and I see and hear the progression.


4 posted on 06/06/2006 12:33:26 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: NYer

This new pope has been annoyingly sensible. He scores again with this statement, it seems.


5 posted on 06/06/2006 12:37:00 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: NYer
We are created in the image and likeness of God. - The Holy Bible.

"God is a family" (paraphrased) - Pope John Paul II.

The destruction of the family is nothing less than suicide. - Me.

6 posted on 06/06/2006 12:40:10 PM PDT by pgyanke (Christ has a tolerance for sinners; liberals have a tolerance for sin.)
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To: George W. Bush

Many years as a gifted teacher does that to a person...Sensible, kind, and believing...and gifted at communicating. What a blessing!


7 posted on 06/06/2006 12:51:04 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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Looks like a two-fer?

Must read for later.


8 posted on 06/06/2006 12:51:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: NYer

Bump.


9 posted on 06/06/2006 1:04:53 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("No one cried when Clinton spied." -Crosslake)
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To: NYer

"the eclipse of God."

What a marvelous phrase! The symbolism is striking!


10 posted on 06/06/2006 1:05:29 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: Frank Sheed

I had the same thought...the term "eclipse" is striking.


11 posted on 06/06/2006 1:08:26 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
The Vatican keeps raising its voice a little higher each time, but no one seems to be listening... The wording seems to get stronger and more urgent with every document.

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It seems that way to me as well, but I live in MA. My perceptions may be skewed.

12 posted on 06/06/2006 1:12:07 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer

Go CHURCH! Engage!


13 posted on 06/06/2006 2:08:19 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Frank Sheed
What a marvelous phrase! The symbolism is striking!

It really is moving. Scary too, at first -- an eclipse being an absolute enigma in nature that casts the world into darkness.

Then I remembered that all eclipses pass...and fade into memory...and become the merest specks of footnotes in history...and the percentage of time the eclipse has its day is....infinitesimal.

14 posted on 06/06/2006 2:11:48 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("....and the sun is eclipsed by the moon!" -- Pink Floyd. But not for long!)
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To: NYer
I propose a compromise with the homo's...

they can marry each other all they want... as long as they do it inside the asylum with all the other lunatics.
15 posted on 06/06/2006 2:39:19 PM PDT by conservative physics
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To: the invisib1e hand

I like your tag line. The album you cite by Pink Floyd is still one of my favorites. So many memorable tunes...

Turning, lying in the sunshine,
Staying home to watch the rain.
And you are young and life is long
and there is time to kill today.
And then one day you find, ten years have got behind you.
No one told you when to run. You missed the starting gun!


16 posted on 06/06/2006 3:42:55 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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To: silverleaf

I wonder if this implies that our hubris is so huge, we have eclipsed God in our own minds by our self-centered, egotistical importance. That, to me, would portend a calamitous fall is impending....


17 posted on 06/06/2006 3:47:17 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Tá brón orainn. Níl Spáinnis againn anseo.)
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18 posted on 06/06/2006 5:07:53 PM PDT by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic "adult")
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To: Frank Sheed; silverleaf
"the eclipse of God."
What a marvelous phrase! The symbolism is striking!

It's visual! Sight words convey more than others.

19 posted on 06/06/2006 5:15:56 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer

Vatican's Pontifical Council for the Family is headed by one of the Church's best men, Cardinal Trujillo. God bless him.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/family/


20 posted on 06/06/2006 6:13:37 PM PDT by Nihil Obstat
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