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(Cardinal) Pell steps up war of words on Islam
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | June 6, 2006 | Linda Morris

Posted on 06/06/2006 6:11:04 AM PDT by NYer

THE country's most influential Catholic has offended Islamic leaders for the second time in a month by declaring Islam more warlike than Christianity.

Australia had not been much changed by the rising Islamic threat after September 11, 2001, the Catholic Archbishop of Sydney, Cardinal George Pell, said. But this could change depending "on how many terrorist attacks" Islamic extremists could "bring off successfully".

"The million-dollar question" was whether intolerance was a modern distortion of Islam or arose out of internal logic.

"It's difficult to find periods of tolerance in Islam. I'm not saying they're not there, but a good deal of what is asserted is mythical."

Dr Pell's comments came in an interview in Rome with John L. Allen, a well-regarded correspondent of National Catholic Reporter. Allen suggested that under the new Pope, Benedict XVI, a more hawkish climate has developed and Islam is being directly challenged on issues of terrorism and religious freedom.

Only last month Dr Pell stirred controversy when he asserted that the Koran was riddled with "invocations to violence", and Islam was not a tolerant religion.

Keysar Trad of the Islamic Friendship Association said Dr Pell's statement showed he had no understanding of Islam.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cardinal; catholic; islam; koran; muslim; pell; quran
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To: NYer
THE country's most influential Catholic has offended Islamic leaders for the second time in a month by declaring Islam more warlike than Christianity.

Its amazing how Muslims are so offended by the truth.

21 posted on 06/06/2006 7:12:05 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: NYer

Give 'em Hell Cardinal Pell...Hehehehe...(can I say that???)


22 posted on 06/06/2006 7:23:15 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: sgtbono2002

"Kill them down until they cant make war."

Sadly, I agree with you. And since it only took 19 of them on 9/11, we need to get busy!


23 posted on 06/06/2006 7:29:02 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: netmilsmom
DR.????

"Dr." is normal British (and hence Aussie) usage in reference to a bishop or senior clergyman, either Catholic or Anglican. It's not meant as an insult.

24 posted on 06/06/2006 7:43:18 AM PDT by livius
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To: el_texicano
Give 'em Hell Cardinal Pell...Hehehehe...(can I say that???)

You already did :-) It's more than appropriate, especially today.

25 posted on 06/06/2006 8:04:57 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: atomicpossum

Our Crusades period was fairly short compared to the Islam wars that raged in the Middle East, Africa, and parts of Europe, plus they helped topple one of the oldest empires: Byzantium (lasted longer than Rome).


26 posted on 06/06/2006 8:14:43 AM PDT by thebaron512
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To: Fruitbat

Take your Post and every time Allah is mentioned substitute the word Satan and you have the crux of the Islamic religion.


27 posted on 06/06/2006 9:36:56 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: livius

>>"Dr." is normal British (and hence Aussie) usage in reference to a bishop or senior clergyman, either Catholic or Anglican. It's not meant as an insult.<<

Ooops! I guess it is better to keep my mouth shut and not show how ignorant I am.


28 posted on 06/06/2006 9:46:11 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: el_texicano

Whatever way "hell" is said in Arabic, that is what His Eminence should continue giving those Islamist murderers.


29 posted on 06/06/2006 9:59:00 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: netmilsmom

It's an easy mistake to make - after all, they usually ARE looking for some way to insult him!


30 posted on 06/06/2006 10:01:13 AM PDT by livius
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To: sgtbono2002
Take your Post and every time Allah is mentioned substitute the word Satan and you have the crux of the Islamic religion.

LOL... I hear ya.

31 posted on 06/06/2006 1:17:36 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Fruitbat

I truly believe Allah and Satan are one and the same.

I have read nothing to change mind.

Lucifer the angel who challenged god himself is still doing it.


32 posted on 06/06/2006 1:54:44 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: sgtbono2002

Allah is a mental machination and contrivance of Mohammed's.

Mohammed himself questioned his possibly being demon possessed on his "dreams." I question it too.

Either way, it's amazing to me how just about every religion is based on simply what someone says and writes, but little else and nothing concrete.


33 posted on 06/06/2006 2:04:04 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: netmilsmom
No, it's actually all right in this case - I teach at a Jesuit school and I wondered about this, so I asked some of the priests there who know His Eminence quite well.

His Eminence prefers to be referred to as Dr Pell, when he is writing or speaking, or being quoted on matters of general theological knowledge and theory. When talking about Catholic doctrine or matters of pure religion, he, of course, wishes to be referred to by his religious title.

But being a Cardinal doesn't make him an expert on other faiths - his academic status is more relevant in those cases.

34 posted on 06/06/2006 4:04:50 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: NYer

"Allen suggested that under the new Pope, Benedict XVI, a more hawkish climate has developed and Islam is being directly challenged on issues of terrorism and religious freedom."

Take it from a "National Catholic Reporter" writer to say that. The fact is that there is nothing "hawkish" about Christians confronting Islam as the supporter of terrorism and religious persecution it has become. It is virtually a duty to do so, and I hope this is being the case under Benedict XVI's watch.


35 posted on 06/07/2006 6:41:26 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: trisham

Both a mensch and a "Righteous Gentile" in my book.


36 posted on 06/07/2006 6:44:32 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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