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Coulter Won't Buy Into Lauer's Liberal Logic
Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 06/06/2006 5:13:56 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

June 6, 2006

While considerable attention focuses on Ann Coulter's more superficial charms, from a conservative perspective Ann's real beauty is her absolute refusal to buy into liberal logic, no matter how pervasive. That independence of mind was on display this morning during her interview with Matt Lauer. Ann was on to tout her new book, Godless: The Church of Liberalism, released today on . . . 6/6/6 - sign of the devil and all that.

The first example came in the the context of President Bush's current push for a constitutional amendment that would prohibit gay marriage. The liberal mantra on his initiative, as exemplified by Ann Curry's performance on yesterday's Today, is that this is a cynical political ploy and a waste of time when there are myriad 'real' issues out there to be addressed.

Right out of the box, Lauer invited her to buy into that logic. Lauer:

"David Gregory said if you ask people what they care abou they say Iraq and gas prices. Gay marriages are way down on the list, but that's what the president is talking about and what the Senate is taking up. Why?"

Coulter would have none of it:

"I don't know what people are talking about or how David Gregory knows that. But I do know that gay marriage amendments have been put on the ballots in about 20 states now and passed by far larger numbers than Bush won the election by."

Lauer then hit Ann with a classic bit of perceived liberal truth: "Here's how E.J. Dionne puts it in the Washington Post:'The Republican party thinks its base of social conservatives is a nest of dummies who have no memories and respond like bulls whenever red flags are waved in their faces.' Do you agree with that?

Coulter: "That the base are dummies or that Bush thinks that?"

Lauer: "That he can wave a red flag and they will run to the polls to respond to him?"

Coulter: "They don't need to respond to him. He's not running again."

Lauer: "They want the voters to turnout in the mid-term elections. They don't want to lose control of the congress."

Coulter: "Maybe they want to do what the voters want. Whatever you can say about whether or not Bush has a mandate, the mandate against gay marriage is pretty strong. It passed by like 85 percent in Mississippi. Even in Oregon, and that was the state that the groups supporting gay marriage fixated on and outspent their opponents by like 40:1, it passed even there. There is a mandate against gay marriage."

Lauer: "Do you think George Bush in his heart really cares strongly about that issue?"

Coulter: "I don't know what anybody cares in his heart."

Lauer: "Would you take a guess?"

Coulter: "I know what Americans think because they keep voting, over and over and over again overwhelmingly they reject gay marriage. So why is that a bad thing for politicians to respond to what is overwhelmingly a mandate?"

Ann's rejection of Lauer's liberal logic was again on stunning display a bit later in the interview. Lauer suggested that Pres. Bush's low approval ratings are attributable to Iraq. That in turn engendered the following exchange.

Coulter: "I don't think so. That's the one thing he is doing right and that the Democrats are incapable of doing. That is fighting the war on terror."

Lauer: "But I am talking about the war with Iraq, not the war on terror."

Coulter: "I consider them the same thing. We didn't invade Guatemala."

Cue the rim shot!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; anncurry; bush; digression; distraction; diversion; dogandponyshow; evasion; flimflam; gaymarriage; godless; iraq; lauer; manbehindthecurtain; mediabias; panderbear; razzledazzle; redherring; shellgame; snowjob; todayshow; wot
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To: Petronski
You remind me of the accident panel that investigated the DC-10 crash in the Chicago area in the late 70s when one of the wing-mounted engines ripped loose, tore-up the hydraulics and caused it to roll out of its takeoff climb and auger in.

The committee studied all of the circumstances and after months of investigations, determined a specific sequence of actions that the flight crew could have taken in the fifteen seconds that could have avoided the crash...and listed the "Pilot Error" as a contributing factor to the crash.

Hindsight is 20-20 and given enough time, most of us could come up with a devastating comeback to any liberal. It is completely different when you are one-on-one, live. That is what many of us are objecting to in your criticism of Ms. Coulter. Your criticism seems to be one of personal animosity, not unlike the professor who is posting on this thread as well.

162 posted on 06/06/2006 7:54:14 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: subterfuge
If you find yourself in a hole, step one is STOP DIGGING.


163 posted on 06/06/2006 7:54:35 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Petronski

Well hey, thats you Pet. But don't kill yourself over it.


164 posted on 06/06/2006 7:56:22 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Wow, Lauer really is an idiot.


165 posted on 06/06/2006 7:56:56 AM PDT by riri
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To: Redleg Duke

Yes, because I'm a committee who spent months investigating Coulter's comment before determining an intricate series of steps that could have avoided the issue.

Exaggerate much?

My guess is, you exaggerate a million billion billion times!


166 posted on 06/06/2006 7:56:58 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: subterfuge

You're still digging.


167 posted on 06/06/2006 7:57:20 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Petronski

Keep on scratching on that tin roof...you will cover your doo-doo sooner or later.


168 posted on 06/06/2006 7:58:52 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: Redleg Duke
The 'professor' has a high opinion of himself. I have run across him on other threads where he has been the 'snarky' one,trying to impress me with his wit and vocabulary, I wasn't all that impressed.
169 posted on 06/06/2006 8:00:05 AM PDT by JimFreedom (My patience is growing thin)
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To: Petronski; cyborg

You're still here arguing over slight differences in words? I think ol' cyborg is getting a raw deal and should take a second look at the sycophant she is getting bamaboozled by. I think I misspelled bamaboozle.


170 posted on 06/06/2006 8:00:15 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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Apparently, the best way the Cult of Ann can find to prove they don't behave like a cult is to flame me from three directions with personal attacks and obscenity.

Yep. That is definitely proof of something.

171 posted on 06/06/2006 8:00:41 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Right Wing Professor
(4) She's hawking a silly book.

From what I've heard, it might indeed be silly. For example, comparing abortion to the Christian sacraments is a very stretched analogy. Liberals believe in legal abortion, but that is not the same as regarding it as a sacrament. I really think that Coulter too often makes herself and her own extravagent statements the issue, and the real issues get lost sight of.
172 posted on 06/06/2006 8:02:54 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: subterfuge
You're still here arguing over slight differences in words?

I'm still here replying to your personal attacks and obscene language, because I want to see how far you'll go.

173 posted on 06/06/2006 8:03:08 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Redleg Duke
"Your criticism seems to be one of personal animosity . . . "

What other kind of animosity is there? I think that Coulter's extravagent manner hurts conservatism as much as helps it. One can be sharp and witty without being obnoxious, and I think she crosses the line too many times.
174 posted on 06/06/2006 8:06:10 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Petronski; cyborg

You're an sychophant, no doubt about it. My, that IS obscene! Hey cyborg, got cold feet yet? You should.

Lets go Pet. I've got all day.


175 posted on 06/06/2006 8:11:21 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: subterfuge
So you want me to help you understand that "I consider them the same thing" and "they are the same thing" are virtually the same statement?

That would be quite an accomplishment since they are very different.

I consider them = it is my opinion

They are = it is a fact

176 posted on 06/06/2006 8:19:13 AM PDT by alnick
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Point, set, match to Ann. Lauer: back to your homo-sodomite pals in the shower, sonny.


177 posted on 06/06/2006 8:20:53 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Somehow I find it hard to believe that The Today Show audience would be a big source of Coulter fans.

The biggest problem with The Today Show audience is that they never get to hear the other side. They are presented liberal propoganda as news.

Coulter's not my favorite, but she handled this interview pretty well, and the audience, for a change, got to hear someone tear apart the liberal propoganda.

That's a good thing. :-)

178 posted on 06/06/2006 8:23:51 AM PDT by alnick
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

They had her on because of her new book. Did Matt bother to even talk about that?


179 posted on 06/06/2006 8:25:22 AM PDT by fish hawk
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To: BadAndy
Ann's charms are wasted on Lauer. Couldn't they find a man to interview her?

I think the Today Show anchor with a set bigger than Lauer's just left for CBS.

180 posted on 06/06/2006 8:25:22 AM PDT by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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