[alnick]

So you want me to help you understand that "I consider them the same thing" and "they are the same thing" are virtually the same statement?

That would be quite an accomplishment since they are very different.

I consider them = it is my opinion

They are = it is a fact

[Petronski]

Careful, alnick. He's got all day to call you a loser and tell you to blow it out your ass.