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Coulter Won't Buy Into Lauer's Liberal Logic
Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 06/06/2006 5:13:56 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

June 6, 2006

While considerable attention focuses on Ann Coulter's more superficial charms, from a conservative perspective Ann's real beauty is her absolute refusal to buy into liberal logic, no matter how pervasive. That independence of mind was on display this morning during her interview with Matt Lauer. Ann was on to tout her new book, Godless: The Church of Liberalism, released today on . . . 6/6/6 - sign of the devil and all that.

The first example came in the the context of President Bush's current push for a constitutional amendment that would prohibit gay marriage. The liberal mantra on his initiative, as exemplified by Ann Curry's performance on yesterday's Today, is that this is a cynical political ploy and a waste of time when there are myriad 'real' issues out there to be addressed.

Right out of the box, Lauer invited her to buy into that logic. Lauer:

"David Gregory said if you ask people what they care abou they say Iraq and gas prices. Gay marriages are way down on the list, but that's what the president is talking about and what the Senate is taking up. Why?"

Coulter would have none of it:

"I don't know what people are talking about or how David Gregory knows that. But I do know that gay marriage amendments have been put on the ballots in about 20 states now and passed by far larger numbers than Bush won the election by."

Lauer then hit Ann with a classic bit of perceived liberal truth: "Here's how E.J. Dionne puts it in the Washington Post:'The Republican party thinks its base of social conservatives is a nest of dummies who have no memories and respond like bulls whenever red flags are waved in their faces.' Do you agree with that?

Coulter: "That the base are dummies or that Bush thinks that?"

Lauer: "That he can wave a red flag and they will run to the polls to respond to him?"

Coulter: "They don't need to respond to him. He's not running again."

Lauer: "They want the voters to turnout in the mid-term elections. They don't want to lose control of the congress."

Coulter: "Maybe they want to do what the voters want. Whatever you can say about whether or not Bush has a mandate, the mandate against gay marriage is pretty strong. It passed by like 85 percent in Mississippi. Even in Oregon, and that was the state that the groups supporting gay marriage fixated on and outspent their opponents by like 40:1, it passed even there. There is a mandate against gay marriage."

Lauer: "Do you think George Bush in his heart really cares strongly about that issue?"

Coulter: "I don't know what anybody cares in his heart."

Lauer: "Would you take a guess?"

Coulter: "I know what Americans think because they keep voting, over and over and over again overwhelmingly they reject gay marriage. So why is that a bad thing for politicians to respond to what is overwhelmingly a mandate?"

Ann's rejection of Lauer's liberal logic was again on stunning display a bit later in the interview. Lauer suggested that Pres. Bush's low approval ratings are attributable to Iraq. That in turn engendered the following exchange.

Coulter: "I don't think so. That's the one thing he is doing right and that the Democrats are incapable of doing. That is fighting the war on terror."

Lauer: "But I am talking about the war with Iraq, not the war on terror."

Coulter: "I consider them the same thing. We didn't invade Guatemala."

Cue the rim shot!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; anncurry; bush; digression; distraction; diversion; dogandponyshow; evasion; flimflam; gaymarriage; godless; iraq; lauer; manbehindthecurtain; mediabias; panderbear; razzledazzle; redherring; shellgame; snowjob; todayshow; wot
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To: mjolnir
Don't forget those piercing blue eyes, sensuous mouth, finely chiseled features, throaty laugh, etc.etc.etc.

I LOVE Ann Coulter.
101 posted on 06/06/2006 6:18:40 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Rummyfan

One of her books sold 30,000 copies. Drudge introduced her one night as a controversialist. She is a master of one-liners, but she has no other responsibility than herself. ie. she doesn't have to go back to congress and sit on committees. I enjoy her, but regard her as a performer.


102 posted on 06/06/2006 6:19:00 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Lauer: "Do you think George Bush in his heart really cares strongly about that issue?"

Coulter: "I don't know what anybody cares in his heart."

Lauer: "Would you take a guess?"

This is the funniest bit of the exchange. On print, anyway, it looks as though Lauer is grasping at straws to keep his agenda moving forward, and she just isn't buying.

103 posted on 06/06/2006 6:19:23 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: Petronski
If I were so wrong, even the likes of you could explain why "I consider them the same..." is rhetorically stronger than "They are the same..."

Why the heck should I? You make the arguement for me.

104 posted on 06/06/2006 6:20:11 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: StrongBlackWoman

She has a neck like that bush of Nefertiti - long and graceful and attactive and in need of fine caressing and kissing.


105 posted on 06/06/2006 6:20:17 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: subterfuge
They're here laot. Reading comprehension problem?

Apparantly. Laot?!!

106 posted on 06/06/2006 6:21:28 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: Piranha

I know what I think in my heart whenever I see her!!


107 posted on 06/06/2006 6:21:28 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: subterfuge
Why the heck should I? You make the arguement for me.

Why should you? It's your contention, you should support it. It's okay though, I accept your concession. Oh, and there's only one "e" in argument.

108 posted on 06/06/2006 6:21:47 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Pistolshot
I know criticizing Ann can get you flamed, but, a little more meat on her bones would be appreciated by some.
109 posted on 06/06/2006 6:23:29 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

LOLOL......have to feel sorry for Lauer.....almost but not quite! LOLOL


110 posted on 06/06/2006 6:26:32 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: LurkLongley; All

111 posted on 06/06/2006 6:26:50 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: neodad; Pistolshot
Brilliant, beautiful, decisive. What more could a man ask for?

A beer?

An ice-cold bottle of BECKS!

112 posted on 06/06/2006 6:27:33 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Pistolshot
Brilliant, beautiful, decisive. What more could a man ask for?

(Condi 2008.<------added January 2004. Remember you heard it here first)

I could ask for Ann in 2008.

113 posted on 06/06/2006 6:28:44 AM PDT by uptoolate (Eph 6:24)
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To: neodad
Brilliant, beautiful, decisive. What more could a man ask for?

Does she fish? Does she own a boat???

114 posted on 06/06/2006 6:29:27 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Petronski

So you want me to help you understand that "I consider them the same thing" and "they are the same thing" are virtually the same statement?

Come on Petronski, you're pretty well known here and you seem to be determined to make yourself look kind of foolish. Oh, and could you spell check this for me?


115 posted on 06/06/2006 6:29:53 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: laotzu

"Laot?"

Sorry about that. My fingers tire easily. :^)


116 posted on 06/06/2006 6:30:45 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The exchange about the 9-11 Jersey girls was also good. I think Matt believes that Ann is a heretic with regards to the 9-11 Jersey girls. After all, like Cindy Shehan, they have the right to voice their opinions without opposition solely because of the losses they suffered.


117 posted on 06/06/2006 6:31:45 AM PDT by iceskater (One person's mess is another person's filing system.)
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To: subterfuge
...are virtually the same statement...

I rest my case.

118 posted on 06/06/2006 6:32:55 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: subterfuge

Have a great day.


119 posted on 06/06/2006 6:33:13 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: Right Wing Professor
Liberal boy ditz vs. conservative girl ditz.

You can call Ann C lots of things, but if you've ever heard her speak you know that "ditz" ain't one of them. Her intellect and reasoning capacity exceeds that of at least 6 of the current justices on the SC, and I doubt that you would call any of them (even Darth Vader Ginsberg) a "ditz".

120 posted on 06/06/2006 6:39:29 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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