Imagine that! Not enough votes for this but more than enough on that abomination of an amnesty bill.
"A vote for this amendment is a vote for bigotry pure and simple," said Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, where the state Supreme Court legalized gay marriages in 2003.
We need to tell our uninformed church friends that it is the Dems who do not want to protect us from gay marriage. It is the Dems who are pandering to one of tehir very small interest groups, the gays.
Someone answer this.
From everything I have read, the title of this thread is true - "not enough votes" in favor of a "marriage" amendment in the U.S. Senate. Even most conservative "analysts" I read say the same thing.
Bush, I think, knows that too.
So, don't flame me, but is his recent public notice of approval for that amendment different, politically, than his sending national guard troops to the border in the 11th hour of our "national immigration debate"?
In fact, I will go one step further; are we being bated to "come back to the fold" on immigration because: "see, he really is" "with us" on this issue?
I want him to know that he can appeal to us on any "conservative" topic he wants to, but he will not buy my vote on his and the Senate's immigration non-reforms, no matter what.
Marriage is between a Woman and a....snake?
BHUBANESWAR: A woman, who claimed to have fallen in love with a snake got married to the reptile as per Hindu rituals at Atala village of Orissa's Khurda district, 14 km from here.
The unusual marriage took place on Wednesday with over 2,000 people taking out a procession to celebrate the event.
Attired in a silk saree, 30 year-old Bimbala Das was seen sitting for around one hour as priests chanted mantras to complete the ritual.
The snake which lived in an ant hill near her home, however, was not around and a brass replica of a serpent was kept by the side of the woman instead.
Bimbala said: "Though snakes cannot speak nor understand, we communicate in a peculiar way. Whenever I put milk near the ant hill where the Cobra lives, it (the snake) always comes out to drink."
"I always get to see it every time I go near the ant hill. It has never harmed me," she claimed.
When Bimbala disclosed her idea of marrying a snake, villagers reportedly appreciated it saying the marriage will bring good fortune to the area. They also came forward to offer a grand feast for those who came to attend the marriage.
The appeal is far beyond that of just social conservatives.
This is just President Bush's feeble attempt at shoring up his base and can be largely ignored. I suspect the base's level of outrage (cause mostly by the amnesty bill) will not be touched by this.
Why not pass it and let the PEOPLE HAVE A VOTE on it?
This is called progress!?
The Republicans are using the gay marriage card in the similar fashion that the Democrats use the Social Security card. When they are in trouble in the polls, they will bring up these issues.
I will not get distracted with such cheap tricks. If the Republicans don't secure the borders and stem the tide of both legal and illegal immigration, there will be no free America to issue marriage certificates to gays, or straights for that matter.
-more gnashing of teeth...
5. The preamble of the Constitution notes that one role of our government is to "...insure domestic Tranquility...". Some of those on this thread would like to ignore the role of the family unit in promoting domestic tranquility. Please note that this role of the government comes before "provide for the common defence"
There certainly should be enough votes to pass this bill. It seems we have those who are afraid special interest groups won't vote for them. Better to think only of themselves obviously.
Smoke screen issue. WHAT ABOUT THE ILLEGALS????
It's a way for Senators to go to their base and said I was involved in a futile effort that I knew wasn't going to pass, and I ignored taxes, the border, etc just in order to make you think I was doing something even though I knew it was going to fail.
Politics is the art of the possible. I want everything done that can get 50 votes. Immigration needs to be on the top of the list. McCain and them need a smack down. But there are not 67 votes for this, and they are just wasting our time.
As Jonah Goldberg said at NRO, this is just election year crap, to paraphrase him. The party ran hard on marriage in 2004, got sworn in on January 2005, and now wait til election season to do this? How seriously should anybody take them? Does anybody doubt that the same thing is going to happen again? After this loses, they will rally the base, might even get more "republicans" elected, then ignore the issue once again until summer 2008.
Even if this amendment passed the Senate, passed the House, and was approved in all 50 states, it wouldn't matter. It would be held up in courts and liberal judges everywhere would declare this constitutional amendment UNconstitutional, and that would be that. I doubt that very many gays, activists or otherwise, are exactly quaking in their boots. They know they have the MSM, the courts, public education, Dems and RINOs on their side. What do they have to fear??
I don't care if it doesn't pass the Senate this time around. Get these losers on record. That is absolutely KEY.
One of Bush's Biggest Mistakes (BBM): Letting Arlen Specter keep his job.