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Bush is the Next Reagan
Persian Journal ^ | Jun 4, 2006 | Slater Bakhtavar

Posted on 06/04/2006 2:24:14 PM PDT by nuconvert

Bush is the Next Reagan

Jun 4, 2006

Slater Bakhtavar - Persian Journal

The same people who heavily criticized former President Reagan for his tough stance against Communism and for his aggressive push for democracy in Eastern Europe are now attacking President Bush for his tough stance against fundamentalism and his aggressive push for democracy in the Middle East.

-They argued then that Communism would never fall - it did They argue now that Islamic Fundamentalism will never fall - it will

-They argued then that the Soviet Union is too strong - it wasn't

They argue now that the insurgency is too strong - it isn't

-They argued that Reagans vision of democracy in East Europe would never work - it did

They argue now that Bushs vision of democracy for the mid-east would never work - it will

They argued then that Reagans evil empire speech was a failure - it wasn't

They argue now that Bushs axis of evil speech is a failure - it won't be

-They argued then that former soviet bloc countries wouldn't embrace democracy - they did

They argue now that middle east countries would never embrace democracy - they will

-They argued then that Eastern Europeans nations would never be our allies - they are

They argue now that middle eastern countries will never be our allies - they will be

-They argued then that people without God could never embrace democracy - they did

They argue now that Muslims will never embrace democracy - they will

-They argued then that President Reagan was unrealistic - he wasn't

They argue now that President Bush is unrealistic - he'll prove he isn't

-They argued then democracy isn't universal to former Communists - it was

They argue now democracy isn't universal to Middle Easterners - it will be

-They argued then that funding of pro-democracy groups in Eastern European countries won't work - it did

They argue now that funding of pro-democracy groups won't work in the Middle East - it will

The same exact critcism was directed at Reagan. The future will be the judge of President Bush and my guess is that he will be judged as the Great Liberator of the Middle East.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; bushdoctrineunfolds; deify; democracy; liberators; middleeast; reagan; spendalot; strongleader; weakposters; worstprezever
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To: EternalVigilance

Great comments, well said.


61 posted on 06/04/2006 3:43:04 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: akron

Do you think that if Reagan HAD done something, rather than leave Lebanon...that possibly al-queda might have not become what they are??

After all, it has been said that Bin Ladin HAS seen the times that America has "left" rather than stay and fight, as a weakness...and gave him more reason to believe he would take down the mighty USA...


63 posted on 06/04/2006 3:53:50 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Tribune7

I think that the President does a better job than he is given credit for. He actually does communicate the important information and people instinctively understand it. In addition, President Reagan had exceptional training in this area.

That said, his ability to talk around the press has been his biggest handicap. But I judge people on what they do, not what they say. And in that, they are both giants.


64 posted on 06/04/2006 3:54:28 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Lakeshark

You are correct...

When I hear the Hannity's and Levin's and see posters with Reagan's name as part of their screen name, screaming about how awful Bush is, compared to Reagan...

it makes me want to pull my hair out...and that is why, whenever there is a thread, I will point out that back during Reagan's time..there WAS no Free Republic...

But, I betcha those same kind of POTUS bashing threads
would be in abundance...especially during the amnesty debate.


65 posted on 06/04/2006 3:56:55 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: George W. Bush

I think Bush is suffering from a dem majority also...


66 posted on 06/04/2006 3:58:31 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger
Meanwhile the American media treat him like a dog.

Because we're winning .. the Many in the MSM don't like when America is winning

They prefer that she is brought to her down to her knees

And for any in the MSM who may be lurking that think I am wrong ??

All we have to do is read your articles ..

67 posted on 06/04/2006 4:02:41 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: pollyannaish
That said, his ability to talk around the press has been his biggest handicap. But I judge people on what they do, not what they say. And in that, they are both giants.

IMO ... it's because he's always on guard with them .. he knows they will twist and take his words out of context

Also .. Remember, Reagan use to pretend not to hear the press on many occasions when they would yell questions to him

Reagan wasn't a fan of theirs either

68 posted on 06/04/2006 4:06:49 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: COEXERJ145; Mo1; ohioWfan


Thank you all for the ping(s).

This is a dandy, yes?


69 posted on 06/04/2006 4:10:03 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: nuconvert

I think history will paint George W. Bush very favorably, but he's no Ronald Reagan and probably never will be. There's no topping the greatness in vision Reagan had.


70 posted on 06/04/2006 4:11:54 PM PDT by Ptaz (Take Personal Responsibility--it's not fun, but it's the right thing to do.)
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To: Txsleuth
I don't think Reagan leaving Lebanon had anything to do with the growth of Al Queda. Would you have preferred Reagan poured the troops in, incurring 50,000 casualties, and then coming to the same conclusion? I don't see where we would have been any better off then than we are now. Reagan knew to cut his losses.

Bush disregards sound military advice, unless you consider Rumsfeld one of the great ground commanders in history. He also lacks the will to prosecute a war. Fallujah should have been leveled by artillery. Bush will go down in history just like LBJ. A free-spending Texan, who fought an unpopular war according to his own concept, while setting the stage for runaway inflation ten years down the road.

Reagan oversaw the great buildup of American forces intimidated the Soviets and led to the 100-hour ground war in 1991. Bush believes in doing more with less.

71 posted on 06/04/2006 4:13:36 PM PDT by akron
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To: nuconvert

"They argue now that funding of pro-democracy groups won't work in the Middle East - it will"

I seriously doubt any country that embraces a totalitarian religion will embrace democracy. I don't care whether they get 99% of a vote for it...the clerics will win. They've lived under the thumb since the seventh century..they have no concept of freedom and wouldn't know how to handle it.

I never thought I'd say this, but we need to leave Iraq to whatever outcome happens. Iraq can be handled by the Iraqi's.



72 posted on 06/04/2006 4:24:17 PM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: pollyannaish
Hmm. And you think being up against potentially nuclear-armed, well-financed, pitied and pampered freelancers who are willing to go out with a bang is easier? The challenges are different to be sure, but this is certainly NOT easier.

The Soviets and their clients were capable of destroying the entire world many times over. OBL & Friends simply are not on that scale. Nor can they overrun entire nations. They do not have intel and diplomatic power.

There is no evidence that OBL has nukes or will acquire them. I think we would have heard the Big Bang long before now had they managed to secure nukes. Same with effective chemical munitions and biowarfare.

Given how insecure our borders are at present and the vastly increased traffic into America from the south, it indicates that Bush & Co doesn't think there's any threat from OBL with WMD. Either that or they just don't care at all. I'm pointing out here that there is no indication that anyone in Washington believes OBL had or has WMD. If that were so, we'd see a lot more security at all entry points, airports, ports, etc.
73 posted on 06/04/2006 4:25:51 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: nuconvert
Keep fighting and make those Islam Fascists bleed in Iraq, but do not encourage them to come and fight on our home turf.
Hoisting a white flag in Iraq and run away is a clear sign to Islamists that America will surrender.
74 posted on 06/04/2006 4:25:52 PM PDT by hermgem (The same)
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To: Ptaz
George W. Bush's vision for the Middle East is easily as far reaching as Reagan's vision regarding communism.

The only difference is that Reagan's vision has already been fulfilled, and Bush's has not yet come to fruition, so there is no way that one can say he will not 'top' Reagan.

I firmly believe that both visions were of God, and of equal import.

75 posted on 06/04/2006 4:28:58 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Txsleuth
I think Bush is suffering from a dem majority also...

Heh-heh. It could be argued... Especially in the Senate. Still, Bush is unlikely to have massive hearings probing his top aides and cabinet like Reagan did with Iran-Contra.
76 posted on 06/04/2006 4:30:01 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: ohioWfan
Around 2030, the first serious histories about Reagan will be written. For Bush II, around 2050.

About 35-40 years before professional historians consider it proper to write a full history about any major figure.
77 posted on 06/04/2006 4:32:52 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Great comments, well said.

Thanks.

78 posted on 06/04/2006 4:32:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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To: akron
Please specify, with links, the 'sound military advice' that President Bush has 'disregarded.'

You have drawn some pretty sweeping conclusions and made some very serious accusations without any proof.

Any time a post could have just as well been written by a leftist, it seems wise to ask for the facts to back up the condemnation of the President.

What are yours?

79 posted on 06/04/2006 4:33:11 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Krodg
The President supports our Marines, something that Regan did not do.
80 posted on 06/04/2006 4:34:42 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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