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Bush is the Next Reagan
Persian Journal ^ | Jun 4, 2006 | Slater Bakhtavar

Posted on 06/04/2006 2:24:14 PM PDT by nuconvert

Bush is the Next Reagan

Jun 4, 2006

Slater Bakhtavar - Persian Journal

The same people who heavily criticized former President Reagan for his tough stance against Communism and for his aggressive push for democracy in Eastern Europe are now attacking President Bush for his tough stance against fundamentalism and his aggressive push for democracy in the Middle East.

-They argued then that Communism would never fall - it did They argue now that Islamic Fundamentalism will never fall - it will

-They argued then that the Soviet Union is too strong - it wasn't

They argue now that the insurgency is too strong - it isn't

-They argued that Reagans vision of democracy in East Europe would never work - it did

They argue now that Bushs vision of democracy for the mid-east would never work - it will

They argued then that Reagans evil empire speech was a failure - it wasn't

They argue now that Bushs axis of evil speech is a failure - it won't be

-They argued then that former soviet bloc countries wouldn't embrace democracy - they did

They argue now that middle east countries would never embrace democracy - they will

-They argued then that Eastern Europeans nations would never be our allies - they are

They argue now that middle eastern countries will never be our allies - they will be

-They argued then that people without God could never embrace democracy - they did

They argue now that Muslims will never embrace democracy - they will

-They argued then that President Reagan was unrealistic - he wasn't

They argue now that President Bush is unrealistic - he'll prove he isn't

-They argued then democracy isn't universal to former Communists - it was

They argue now democracy isn't universal to Middle Easterners - it will be

-They argued then that funding of pro-democracy groups in Eastern European countries won't work - it did

They argue now that funding of pro-democracy groups won't work in the Middle East - it will

The same exact critcism was directed at Reagan. The future will be the judge of President Bush and my guess is that he will be judged as the Great Liberator of the Middle East.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; bushdoctrineunfolds; deify; democracy; liberators; middleeast; reagan; spendalot; strongleader; weakposters; worstprezever
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To: ohioWfan

"You seem more than willing to engage in speculation when it suits you"

Again, do not attack me personally. If my opinion doesn't suit you, then disagree.

I speculate thusly because GWB's solutions are typically rooted in Big Government. I expect his future actions to be similarly structured. Of course I could be wrong, but I don't think he will change, as he is famously stubborn, for better, or (in this case) for worse.


301 posted on 06/04/2006 6:29:00 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Txsleuth
Unfortunately, so many people listen with the goal of picking him apart...rather than listen to what he has to actually say...

Bingo!

302 posted on 06/04/2006 6:29:46 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: RFEngineer

you are the one who thinks so much of himself that he judges another by WHAT HE THINKS WILL HAPPEN!!! I judged your opinion by your own words! And by stating that there were people like who who thought the very same thing about post war germany and japan, and i was judging you BY WHAT I THINK YOUR RELATIVES were like, since that is where we get who we are as a person....don't like that do you. What is the difference in what you are doing to President Bush and what I was doing to you??? Or is your opinion the only one written in marble?


303 posted on 06/04/2006 6:29:56 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: patriciaruth

This is truly rare. "Lincoln, Reagan became great by actually solving a problem unambiguously." Aren't we still working out the ambiguities of Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation?


304 posted on 06/04/2006 6:30:43 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: EternalVigilance

My Reps Burr, Dole and Hayes seem good to me. How about yours?


305 posted on 06/04/2006 6:30:44 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: patriciaruth
Wise recommendation. Thanks, Patty.

(Sometimes I need to be slapped upside the head about trying to deal with these deliberate mockers).

306 posted on 06/04/2006 6:30:45 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: RFEngineer

Once again...the point you bring up about Reagan's presidency is winning the cold war...

But, for Bush's you bring up immigration...

REAGAN SET THE PRECEDENT FOR AMNESTY...


307 posted on 06/04/2006 6:31:50 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

Don't you ever say I'm Bushbashing you 29%er.
I disagree with many of his policies, I don't dislike the man, I dislike his policies and think thet are about to take the GOP down the tube.

U feel me!


308 posted on 06/04/2006 6:32:23 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: EternalVigilance

Codswallop!


309 posted on 06/04/2006 6:32:31 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Dawnsblood

"I agree Afganistan will be a disaster if we remove our funding. But ask Isreal (3 billion) and Egypt (1 billion) how they are doing?"

Start a thread on Israel and Egypt. ping me, I'll participate.

On Egypt and Israel, GWB merely continued the momentum of previous policy, so it is irrelevant to this discussion, I believe, as it doesn't affect his place in history.


310 posted on 06/04/2006 6:32:34 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Jewels1091
Some of them go to both the Bush hating sites and to this one, Jewels.

They go there for reinforcement, and then come here to try to divide and conquer.

311 posted on 06/04/2006 6:32:46 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan
They go there for reinforcement, and then come here to try to divide and conquer

AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!!!!!

312 posted on 06/04/2006 6:33:39 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: Txsleuth
Once again, we get a poster that says that Bush doesn't compare favorably because of his border policies.. BUT, you praise Reagan....WHO STARTED THIS WHOLE FIASCO

Reagan gave an amnesty. And it was unpopular but at least he openly called it that. It was for 3 million. And he got Congress to pass employer sanctions. Reagan operated in good faith. It was the three subsequent presidents who have refused to enforce the laws.
313 posted on 06/04/2006 6:33:43 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Dawnsblood

We have some good people in the Congress, in the House, particularly. My goal is to send them reinforcements, from wherever we can find them.


314 posted on 06/04/2006 6:33:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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To: tennmountainman

Again I disagree. I love the fact that he is battleing the Islamofacists, I love the fact that he is fighting to keep taxes low and I love Alito and Roberts. His policies are at least 60/40... I'd argue 80/20


315 posted on 06/04/2006 6:34:55 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: EternalVigilance

Amen EV Amen


316 posted on 06/04/2006 6:35:19 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: nuconvert

Great article. Great President.


317 posted on 06/04/2006 6:35:58 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: hosepipe
Reagan pulled the rug out from under the Soviet Union.. passed the baton to Newt.. Bush pulled the rug out from under the republican party..

Newt dropped the baton early on in '95.

By the end of '95 Newt was sitting on it. Few in the country liked him. The Clintons and the MSM had successfully demonized him. Conservatism was in ruins.

To say that Newton high-handed the baton to Bush is revisionism.

318 posted on 06/04/2006 6:36:00 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: RFEngineer
LOL! I didn't 'attack' you!

I said that you felt free to speculate if it made President Bush looked bad.

You did just that, so you obviously do. That's not even close to being an 'attack.'

Regarding big government, I agree that President Bush uses government itself to accomplish conservative goals.

Perhaps that's because he learned from Reagan's (failed) attempts to cut government, and has decided that realistically, the way to win the fight for conservatism is to restructure and reform government to accomplish conservative goals.

319 posted on 06/04/2006 6:36:20 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: RFEngineer

Reagan began his fight against communism in the 40's and had many decades to think about how to handle the challenge. In the end, I believe he adopted Casper Weinberger's strategy of the arms build up to bankrupt the communists.

We are learning on the job in the WOT fight as we are learning on the job how to fight insurgents and infiltrators in Iraq. We didn't have decades to ponder the subject and thinktank our strategies.

In the Revolutionary War, in the Civil War, and in WWII, Washington, Lincoln and FDR did a lot of the same thing.

What made all of them respected by historians as great was that they never gave up. They believed in total victory and kept going till they found the winning strategy.


320 posted on 06/04/2006 6:36:32 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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