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Bush is the Next Reagan
Persian Journal ^ | Jun 4, 2006 | Slater Bakhtavar

Posted on 06/04/2006 2:24:14 PM PDT by nuconvert

Bush is the Next Reagan

Jun 4, 2006

Slater Bakhtavar - Persian Journal

The same people who heavily criticized former President Reagan for his tough stance against Communism and for his aggressive push for democracy in Eastern Europe are now attacking President Bush for his tough stance against fundamentalism and his aggressive push for democracy in the Middle East.

-They argued then that Communism would never fall - it did They argue now that Islamic Fundamentalism will never fall - it will

-They argued then that the Soviet Union is too strong - it wasn't

They argue now that the insurgency is too strong - it isn't

-They argued that Reagans vision of democracy in East Europe would never work - it did

They argue now that Bushs vision of democracy for the mid-east would never work - it will

They argued then that Reagans evil empire speech was a failure - it wasn't

They argue now that Bushs axis of evil speech is a failure - it won't be

-They argued then that former soviet bloc countries wouldn't embrace democracy - they did

They argue now that middle east countries would never embrace democracy - they will

-They argued then that Eastern Europeans nations would never be our allies - they are

They argue now that middle eastern countries will never be our allies - they will be

-They argued then that people without God could never embrace democracy - they did

They argue now that Muslims will never embrace democracy - they will

-They argued then that President Reagan was unrealistic - he wasn't

They argue now that President Bush is unrealistic - he'll prove he isn't

-They argued then democracy isn't universal to former Communists - it was

They argue now democracy isn't universal to Middle Easterners - it will be

-They argued then that funding of pro-democracy groups in Eastern European countries won't work - it did

They argue now that funding of pro-democracy groups won't work in the Middle East - it will

The same exact critcism was directed at Reagan. The future will be the judge of President Bush and my guess is that he will be judged as the Great Liberator of the Middle East.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; bushdoctrineunfolds; deify; democracy; liberators; middleeast; reagan; spendalot; strongleader; weakposters; worstprezever
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To: ohioWfan
When the Army Chief of Staff Shinseki tells you that you need 300,000+ troops to do it right, and you disregard him, I consider that failing to follow sound military advice. When the Sec. of the Army Tommy White, who was a former general in the Army trained to fight land battles, tell you the same thing and Rumsfeld runs him off, that's disregarding sound military advice.

When your plan is to rush to Baghdad, regardless of enemy threatening your supply lines, that's disregarding sound military advice. So when the 5th Corps Commander LTG Wallace wanted to halt the march on Baghdad to deal with the Fedayeen, he should have been allowed to do so. Instead, he was threatened with being relieved. So, the Fedayeen were allowed to live to fight another day. Colin Powell, and I don't know if you consider him competent to discuss military matters, said "The commander in the field is always right and the rear echelon is wrong, unless proved otherwise." More sound advice that has been ignored.

Lets not forget bypassing enemy ammo dumps that should have been guarded or destroyed in place. These have supplied an endless amount of ammo for these Fedayeen that should have been killed, but for Rumsfeld's "blitzkrieg.". Powell also said that you go to war with overwhelming force and a clear exit strategy. We did neither in Iraq. But again, I don't know if you would consider Powell competent in military matters.

Should I mention having insufficent force to secure the borders and prevent more enemy from entering the country?

Let me know if you see anything that is not true....

Just FYI, it doesn't bother me that you infer I'm a leftist for refusing to drink the kool-aid.

121 posted on 06/04/2006 5:15:34 PM PDT by akron
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To: nopardons

You're so much more pleasant to read since you started using spellcheck and learned how to capitalize letters.


122 posted on 06/04/2006 5:15:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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To: tennmountainman

Because people like you have turned your backs on him...there are those who don't agree with him on every issue that recognise that is not possible. We support his vision, we see what he is trying to occomplish and it is nothing short of world history changing.


123 posted on 06/04/2006 5:17:00 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: BW2221

Well....it isn't just me...it is people at some of the think tanks..

I will agree with you that this isn't new...that radical (all?) Islam has had their goal of controlling all of the world for centuries...

BUT, why now? and why Bin Ladin?

Maybe, because IN HIS OWN WORDS, he saw that America doesn't fight to win, ever since the Vietnam War....thank you John F'n Kerry.


124 posted on 06/04/2006 5:17:16 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: nuconvert

President Reagan freed a half billion people from tyranny, President Bush has only freed 70 million. Still GW is more like Reagan than his dad. I like them both.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


125 posted on 06/04/2006 5:18:17 PM PDT by bray (Top 10 Bushbot!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

This is a pretty good polemical paragraph. You are getting pretty good at this game. No, I don't agree with most of it, but I don't disagree with all of it. Among other things, setting performance standards for schools was an absolute necessity, and it becomes more so, as time goes by, and all those talented Chinese and Indians, become competitors. SCOTUS did not think Bush trashed the first amendment, and frankly, campaign finance is still a sewer. I have the Torie plan, but alas, that plan gets zero support on this site. So, we will just have to live with being a multi millionarie being a job prerequisite for the Senate, with lobbyists buying everything in sight. And so it goes.


126 posted on 06/04/2006 5:19:03 PM PDT by Torie
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To: ohioWfan
Already posted to this thread, but thanks for the ping anyway. :-)

The naysayers WILL continue to be Bushbashers, until, all of a sudden, a few years hence, they WILL be claiming how very mush they loved him, how hard they worked to get him elected and how CONSERVATIVE he was. That's why they should just be ignored; now.

127 posted on 06/04/2006 5:19:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: sinkspur
When you fight a war, while cutting taxes, and increasing social spending, as did LBJ, it leads to inflation because you have to print money to pay the bills.

Real Annual Growth Rate of Non-defense and Non-Homeland Security Outlays by President:

Johnson +4.1%
Nixon +5.0%
Carter +1.6%
Reagan - 1.4%
Bush 41 +3.8%
Clinton +2.1%
Bush 43 +4.8%

No, history will grade Reagan much higher

128 posted on 06/04/2006 5:19:54 PM PDT by akron
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To: EternalVigilance
EV, you are taking your own political opinion and carrying it WAY too far. What Paul was talking about has nothing to do with the comparison of American Presidents. He was talking about not measuring his own ministry according to superficial standards.

In other words, he was reviling in others, the very thing that YOU did, even using the same comparison of speech.

For some say, "His letters are weighty and foreceful, but in person he is unimpressive and his speaking amounts to nothing."

In other words, your slamming President Bush for his speaking is precisely what Paul was saying was wrong with what others were doing. Our measure is who we are in Christ, not how eloquently we speak.

And if you are saying that President Bush is lacking what President Reagan had in spiritual strength, I would say first, that you are in no position to do that, and second, if one would judge only by the observable, the opposite might well be true.

Don't play the game of using Scripture (or misusing, as you did in this case) to back up your politics, EV. You're on dangerous ground.

129 posted on 06/04/2006 5:20:30 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh, dear, you used the phrase "spend money like a drunken sailor"...

THAT is the redlight phrase that pays!!!

Yeppers, that red light means that you are getting your talking points from the LEFT....the LIBS..the LOONEYS.

And you posts are to be disregarded.


130 posted on 06/04/2006 5:20:45 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: akron

If you put aside everything else, on fiscal policy, a Dem president with a Pubbie congress is the ticket. That is just how politics works.


131 posted on 06/04/2006 5:21:32 PM PDT by Torie
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh.....yeah.....feel good sycophancy like you have for Reagan?


132 posted on 06/04/2006 5:22:33 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger
Not to mention a whole lot of Bushbashers, who apparently have no actual remembrances of the factual occurrences of Reagan two terms as president.

The MSM treated Reagan the same way as they do this president Bush. Twas ever thus. Slick Willie could do no wrong, President Bush can't do anything right.

133 posted on 06/04/2006 5:23:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: akron
When you fight a war, while cutting taxes, and increasing social spending, as did LBJ, it leads to inflation because you have to print money to pay the bills.

The deficit is going down, thanks to Bush's tax cuts. LBJ never cut taxes; that was Kennedy. There would be no inflation today if gasoline prices were factored out.

Leaving out defense spending is disingenous, and you know it. Reagan never cut spending and agreed to four tax increases.

134 posted on 06/04/2006 5:24:34 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: nuconvert
Reagan pulled the rug out from under the Soviet Union.. passed the baton to Newt..
Bush pulled the rug out from under the republican party.. and molested the base with the baton.. (use your imagination)

They do have some like characteristics.. 180 degrees out from each other..

20 "plus" million brand new democrats(amnesty) helps the republican party HOW?..

135 posted on 06/04/2006 5:25:58 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Jewels1091

No, I am a conservative who is an issue based voter. I don't drink the koolaid and defend for the sake of Republican.

I must not be alone. A large chunk of conservatives are running as well.

In November, Im afraid you will see how his policies have divided this party.
Reagan united the base. Bush's policies has divided the base.

SECURE THE BORDERS. BUILD A WALL>


136 posted on 06/04/2006 5:26:29 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Txsleuth
EXACTLY SO !!!!!!!!
137 posted on 06/04/2006 5:26:38 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: sinkspur

Takes about ten years. Just wait...


138 posted on 06/04/2006 5:26:46 PM PDT by akron
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To: EternalVigilance
but has failed to expend much political capital effectively

I don't like what W is proposing for the borders, but I haven't forgotten how much political capital he has spent wisely and done well with:

1. Tax cuts that rejuvenated our business capacity as a country and has brought a huge boom through what wouldt have been a much harder time.
2. He brought back pride to our military and continues to increase spending there, and don't kid yourself, the younguns in Iraq and Afghanistan love the man.
3. His court appointments have been great, actually better than Reagan's.
4. He has managed the WOT very well, against a horrendous press and a horrible traitorous minority party.
5. Without his speeches and tough action after 911 we simply couldn't have continued as a great nation. We would have whimpered out with most so called leaders in his stead.
6. Without his determination to hunt down the AQ bastards we would likely have been hit many more times. Think of how much capital he has had to spend daily going against the false charges, the Dem cheap shots, the lies of the MSM, yet we have been hit zero, yep zero times since then with an enemy who wants to hit us every day, and we are beating the crap out of them. If you had said we wouldn't have another terrorist strike to me 5 years since 911 on October 1, 2001, I would have said you were crazy.

Okay.....that was a quick list, there is more, lots more, but you seem to have forgotten everything over the border......

Sad. Very sad.

139 posted on 06/04/2006 5:27:15 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: ohioWfan
Oh.....yeah.....feel good sycophancy like you have for Reagan?

Actually, I see some folks' seeming need to tear down Reagan to try and somehow make the current President look better as a sign of real desperation.

140 posted on 06/04/2006 5:29:05 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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