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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 4 June 2006
Various big media television networks ^ | 4 June 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 06/04/2006 5:26:04 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



Sunday, June 4th, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice; Sens. Jack Reed, D-R.I., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del.; former U.N. chief weapons inspector Hans Blix.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Former Vice President Al Gore; author John Updike.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Rice; Blix; Sens. George Allen, R-Va., and Carl Levin, D-Mich.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; algore; biden; facethenation; fns; foxnewssunday; georgeallen; guests; hansblix; jackreed; johnupdike; lateedition; lindseygraham; lineup; meetthepress; news; rice; sunday; talkshows; thisweek
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To: Arizona Carolyn
It's a tax on carbon-producing products... think energy. Past examples/implementations:

On January 1, 1991, Sweden enacted a carbon tax, placing a tax of .25 SEK/kg ($100 per ton) on the use of oil, coal, natural gas, liquefied petroleum gas, petrol, and aviation fuel used in domestic travel. Industrial users paid half the rate (between 1993 and 1997, 25% of the rate), and certain high-energy industries such as commercial horticulture, mining, manufacturing and the pulp and paper industry were fully exempted from these new taxes. In 1997 the rate was raised to .365 SEK/kg ($150 per ton) of CO2 released. Finland, the Netherlands, and Norway also introduced carbon taxes in the 1990s.

In 2005 New Zealand proposed a carbon tax, setting an emissions price of NZ$15 per tonne of CO2-equivalent. The planned tax was scheduled to take effect from April 2007, and applied across most economic sectors but allowed a standing exemption for methane emissions from farming and provisions for special exemptions from carbon intensive businesses if they agree to adopt world's-best-practice standards of emissions. After the 2005 election, the minor parties supporting the Government opposed the proposed tax, and it was abandoned in December 2005. The Government said the tax would not be effective at reducing carbon emissions.

As President of the United States, Bill Clinton proposed a BTU tax that was not adopted. In April 2005, Paul Anderson, CEO and Chairman of Duke Energy, called for the introduction of a carbon tax.

661 posted on 06/04/2006 2:32:48 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: malia

Oh, malia - I'd forgotten about Rockefeller going to Syria before the war. What a good memory and an excellent question. I hope someone is following up on that trip Rockefeller made to Syria and other countries before the war and warning them that our troops were coming.

Amazing we never hear Russert even MENTION that little tidbit.


662 posted on 06/04/2006 2:32:55 PM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: krunkygirl

Did they ask him why his data only goes back fourteen years and since that was the start of the Clinton/Gore administration -- what did they do during that time if global warming was such an emergency?


663 posted on 06/04/2006 2:33:44 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Wait til she 'moderates' a presidential debate...


664 posted on 06/04/2006 2:37:57 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: Phsstpok; freema; Just A Nobody; MNJohnnie
"The bullet hole shown in the video on the little boy's back has already been commented on that it could very well NOT cause paralysis, by several vets."

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What Animal Vets? Vets of the USO? Truck driver vets? Not Combat Vets. They must have ZERO understanding of Human anatomy as well. Bullet going in there, in the manner this "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" is claiming, is going to hit the spine. Forget all this nonsense about ricochet, or shrapnel or spent rounds. That does not make the accusation against the Marines any more plausible and in fact would serve to confirm the Marines version of events.

The accusation by the same "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" that created this video, is the Marines shot these people while standing in the same room with them as an act of cold blooded murder. If that were true, there is NO way based on where this "bullet wound" is on the child, that he could survive without at least being paralyzed.

Not only that, any bullet fired into the child in the manner claimed would have to continue on and come out some where. There would have to be a very large exit wound some where on the body. In addition, after being "Wounded" the child is going to have to survive an extended period of time lying there until aid come for them. Not a prayer of survival. None.

They would bleed to death. Even if this shot at such and angle that by some act of divine intervention missed the spine, it would have to go thru a lung or the heart. Remember, the accusation by the "Iraqi Civil Right Group" is supposedly this was a straight deliberate shot, not some freak richocet or other nonsense. Also, in the video they claim the Marines "cordoned off the area with a large number of soldiers so we could not get away" meaning NO aid would of been given to the "survivors" of the "massacre" for a very long period of time. The "Out of Control Marines" were not going to suddenly patch up people they just executed.

With a sucking chest wound the kid is dead. No if, maybes or buts. Anyone telling you different is a liar. Even if the child had a immediate access to top flight medical care, they are a quad minimum. Anyone telling you different is an utter and complete liar making up crap because they so desperately want to believe the accusations. They simply have either not seen the video or are lying. Here is the link. NO way you can get deliberately shoot someone at close range in the location shown with the weapons the Marines carry and not hit the spine. NONE.

Just watch the video for yourself. Don't blindly accept what some anonymous person tells you. Go watch it.

Then, go ask your "Combat Vets" what their MOS was.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/05/31/haditha/index.html
665 posted on 06/04/2006 2:39:11 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (I would rather be an Iraqi in a Hidatha guarded by Marines, then a subject of Al-Qeda anywhere.)
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To: Morgan in Denver

#649, very thoughtful and thought provoking.


666 posted on 06/04/2006 2:45:30 PM PDT by samantha (cheer up, the Adults are in charge,but need Reserves really fast)
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To: johnny7

Can you imagine this carbon tax passing as long as Republicans control the House of Representatives?

Kyoto by another name remains a bad idea.....


667 posted on 06/04/2006 2:46:52 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: chiller
It's believed we have more oil in Utah, Wyoming and Colorado than they have in Saudi Arabia, if the RINO's would just let us get it along with ANWR, and I heard last week they took pig poop and turned it into fuel oil and it didn't take very long to do so. We certainly don't have a shortage of pigs here.

Then there is the Kaparowits plateau that Clinton took out of the equation... not without a purpose. We are not paying high prices at the pump because of lack of resources, we are paying for stupid decisions from the left.

668 posted on 06/04/2006 2:47:04 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: samantha

It's one of those things that makes me smile every day.


669 posted on 06/04/2006 2:48:17 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver
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To: Peach
I have sent the following to MTP via their web page comment form:

According to quick transcripts I've seen of your interview with Hans Blix you asked him "Did the WMDs go to surrounding countries."  You then (according to these transcripts) accepted his comment "They were destroyed in 1991, that is what Saddams son-in-law has said, and I believe that is the truth."  My question to you is are you aware of the following allegations from credible sources?

This post is from FreeRepublic and can be found at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1643125/posts?page=34#34
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When Hans Blix and others start talking about how the administration lied and there were no WMD in Iraq, remember this:

Last month Moshe Yaalon, who was Israel's top general at the time, said Iraq transported WMD to Syria six weeks before Operation Iraqi Freedom began.

Last March, John A. Shaw, a former U.S. deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said Russian Spetsnaz units moved WMD to Syria and Lebanon's Bekaa Valley.

"While in Iraq I received information from several sources naming the exact Russian units, what they took and where they took both WMD materials and conventional explosives," Mr. Shaw told NewsMax reporter Charles Smith.

Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong was deputy commander of Central Command during Operation Iraqi Freedom. In September 2004, he told WABC radio that "I do know for a fact that some of those weapons went into Syria, Lebanon and Iran."

In January 2004, David Kay, the first head of the Iraq Survey Group which conducted the search for Saddam's WMD, told a British newspaper there was evidence unspecified materials had been moved to Syria from Iraq shortly before the war.

"We know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD program," Mr. Kay told the Sunday Telegraph.

Also that month, Nizar Nayuf, a Syrian journalist who defected to an undisclosed European country, told a Dutch newspaper he knew of three sites where Iraq's WMD was being kept. They were the town of al Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria; the Syrian air force base near the village of Tal Snan, and the city of Sjinsar on the border with Lebanon.

In an addendum to his final report last April, Charles Duelfer, who succeeded David Kay as head of the Iraq Survey Group, said he couldn't rule out a transfer of WMD from Iraq to Syria.

"There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved. In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation," Mr. Duelfer said.

In a briefing for reporters in October 2003, retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper Jr., who was head of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency when the Iraq war began, said satellite imagery showed a heavy flow of traffic from Iraq into Syria just before the American invasion.

"I think the people below Saddam Hussein and his sons' level saw what was coming and decided the best thing to do was to destroy and disperse," Lt. Gen. Clapper said.

You haven't heard much about these reports, because they contradict the meme that Saddam either had no WMD, or destroyed it well before the Iraq war began.

A man who had been deputy chief of Saddam Hussein's air force claimed Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war began.

Special Republican Guard brigades loaded yellow barrels with the skull and crossbones sign on each barrel onto two airliners from which the seats had been removed, Georges Sada said. There were 56 flights in all.

The captured files of the Iraqi intelligence service, still mostly untranslated, could shed light on what did happen to Saddam's WMD.
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These accounts may be "dismissable," but you don't have the right to dismiss them without examining them in the open and presenting your evidence that they are not correct.  I give you credit for raising the question to Hans Blix.  I question your impartiatiality and, in fact, your honesty, in that you didn't present any of this evidence when you allowed Blix to dismiss all of these claims so casually.  That is not journalism, sir, that is propoganda.

Please prove me wrong.  I'd really (really) enjoy it if you proved me wrong

No inclusion of your screen name (though the link provides that).  We'll see if we get a response (I doubt it).   And my invitation to "prove me wrong" is intended to get him to show me that he is not a left wing propogandist, not to discredit this post.  I realized after sending the comment that it could be taken that way.  Sorry.

670 posted on 06/04/2006 2:49:44 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: freema
Opps, sorry did not see the person Phsstpok was quoting when I responded. I see you made the original statement. I see you have a personal interest in this story.

They can "What if this" to death. It does not change the basic point.

Even if one of the "What If's" being thrown is true, the story being sold by "Iraqi Civil Rights" group is still prove a lie.

Remember, the accusation is a deliberate shot by a Marine in the same room as the child. Deliberate, point blank aimed shot. Since the sole source for the accusations against the Marines is this "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" who made this video for CNN, and the physical evidence presented contradicts their claims of how the supposed wound occurred, ALL their "Evidence" is tainted. They are proven to be liars. The direct, deliberate aimed shot they claim "wounded" this child could not of happened. If they are lying about this, what else are they lying about? Their ties to the terrorists who detonated the IED and killed a Marine maybe?
671 posted on 06/04/2006 2:52:29 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (I would rather be an Iraqi in a Hidatha guarded by Marines, then a subject of Al-Qeda anywhere.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

There's a really good environmental story/link on the Corner right now....near the top. re: Skeptics society, with Michael Cricton, John Stossel and a bunch of oil and environment experts. Check it out. Discussions about oil and shale, etc.


672 posted on 06/04/2006 2:53:21 PM PDT by chiller (every time we call MSM "mainstream" we confirm their status. "OLD" or "ANTIQUE" please.)
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To: anita

It worked for them twice, why change playbooks??? If Perot hadn't run the second time, there is a good chance Dole would have won and Clinton would have been a one-term mistake.


673 posted on 06/04/2006 2:54:35 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Is the Karopowitz plateau the same as the Escalante Mounument?


674 posted on 06/04/2006 2:56:52 PM PDT by chiller (every time we call MSM "mainstream" we confirm their status. "OLD" or "ANTIQUE" please.)
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To: Txsleuth

I felt the same when I heard it, tx.


675 posted on 06/04/2006 2:57:52 PM PDT by STARWISE (((They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL autho)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

WADR (LOL), I don't think Dole had a chance. It was "his turn" so he was given the shot without any real feeling by GOP that he would be successful. I think the term is cannon fodder.


676 posted on 06/04/2006 2:58:22 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Okay, I have to admit to not reading about the California election law you are referring to...

Can you let me know what it is?


677 posted on 06/04/2006 2:58:30 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Cedric

He may, indeed, run 3rd party because he is doing too much to tick off the GOP base to win the nomination.


678 posted on 06/04/2006 3:01:01 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: STARWISE

Thank you....I was wondering if I was being too emotional about it or not.


679 posted on 06/04/2006 3:03:49 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

California legislators passed Assembly Bill 2948 on Tuesday, which both challenges and revolts against the US Constitution’s directive for Electoral College procedures in US presidential elections. The newly-passed California bill provides for the state to dispense with Constitutional law and give its votes to the presidential candidate who wins the US popular vote.


680 posted on 06/04/2006 3:08:02 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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