[Gondring]

Anyone taking issue with what he said, rather than ad hominem drive-bys?

Let's look at this for a moment... if we can do these things to unconvicted detainees, then why can't we do them to convicted felons? Why aren't we waterboarding convicted felons?

Because of legal decisions... so that leads to... is America a nation ruled by law anymore?

[AmishDude]

if we can do these things to unconvicted detainees, then why can't we do them to convicted felons?

By international law, the detainees are spies -- or worse. Summary execution is the most humane possible outcome. Felons are a domestic matter.

[Beagle8U]

"Let's look at this for a moment... if we can do these things to unconvicted detainees, then why can't we do them to convicted felons?"

The "unconvicted detainees" as you call them, are terrorist suspects. Like spies caught behind the battle lines, out of uniform, they have no rights.

This isn't someone suspected of stealing a car or of shoplifting, this is a war, and if they want to get involved in a war with America, they better put on a freaking uniform if they expect any rights at all!

[spikeytx86]

War is different. Look back through history and you will see that in times of war drastic measures have always been taken for victories sake and self preservation. War is hell for a reason, if you have a problem with that take it up with the sons a b*tches who started it in a cave a decade ago!

The world is not as clean cut and righteous as liberty's kids and history books let on. A lot of unsavory things have been done to preserve our freedoms. Our freedoms may protect us but what do you think protects our freedoms?

[therut]

I do. War is hell and sometimes you do what you need to do. The USA has lost the will to fight. I have absolutely no problem with torture if needed. These guy could have been shot on sight and that would have been legal.