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Haditha Child: I Knew of Bomb Plot to Kill Marines
NewsMax.com ^ | June 3, 2006 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 06/03/2006 8:26:22 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax

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To: geezerwheezer

If the civilians become willing part of the cover and concealment of the enemy, they thereby become active combatants. In Viet Nam we had children ride bicycles with backpacks full of explosives (satchel bombs) so the could get close enough to the GI's to throw in a tent or something like that. What the left dosen't understand is that you can't fight a gorilla force with conventional methods and rules of engagement.


121 posted on 06/03/2006 12:31:33 PM PDT by scannell
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To: Lorianne

"You don't go to war hiding behind your children."
They do! They'll just get another "wife/slave" and make some more. No big deal!


122 posted on 06/03/2006 12:36:11 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: jude24
nothing justifies slaughtering them

There is no evidence yet released that anyone was slaughtered.

In fact, they will not even have bodies, if you believe this morning's news. The family will not permit them to be exhumed.

Let's determine: (1) That these GI's actually killed someone, and (2) That there was no battlefield explanation that mitigates the killing.

123 posted on 06/03/2006 12:55:40 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: cardinal4; Carl/NewsMax
Strange wording.

The child was probably speaking Arabic, don't you think? This is a translation.

Since NewsMax probably doesn't have too many reporters on the scene, I wonder where they got this account.
124 posted on 06/03/2006 12:58:39 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush

I disagree. Translation or not, I dont buy the reptitve use of the the term "US Military". Nor do I buy the childs knowledge of US Military vehicles. It was coached. This whole story is starting to stink..


125 posted on 06/03/2006 1:02:49 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mcarthy-Gore-Clinton-Feingold-Murtha- Pelosi-the true Axis of Evil...)
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To: Tammy8
If she knew the IED was going to explode, and the Marines came straight to her house- I wonder if the Marines have a way to electronically trace a detonator? Sounds to me like they went right to the source.

A simpler explanation is that after the IED blast, the Marines took fire from the house, and/or those nearby. IIRC, that's more or less what they reported.

126 posted on 06/03/2006 3:02:23 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: cardinal4
Strange wording. Sounds coached to me, a 12 year old would have just called them soldiers, IMHO..

I wouldn't put much store in the "quotations" since it's unlikely she spoke in English. The translator may not have been of the highest quality. There are only so many English speakers to go around, and this reporter may have gotten stuck with a real dufus. Plus the possibility that the translator, like the original reporter, and the doctor who signed the death certificates, is in thrall to the terrorists, or is one of them.

127 posted on 06/03/2006 3:09:35 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: operation clinton cleanup

I found this article from October 7, 2005 via CNN. It was written by Arwa Damon, the CNN reporter who spoke out on behalf of the soldiers in Haditha. Read this and tell me if the civilians in the city of Haditha are just innocent bystanders...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/07/iraq.haditha

The REAL Haditha -
http://www.chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com


128 posted on 06/03/2006 3:11:59 PM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (All aboard the Chickenhawk Express... www.chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com)
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To: Gay State Conservative
How are these things detonated? By some kind of radio transmitter...or even a cell phone? Does the one pressing the button need to be near the device that's to explode?

Not because of the technology of the device used to set it off, except that it's not one used in a regular military mine. Rather because in absence of some sort of vehicle detection device (like a pressure detonator or magnetic influence detonator) the person pushing the button, or throwing the switch (It could be a wired system) must have a line of sight to the device, so that he or she can know when to set it off.

129 posted on 06/03/2006 3:13:14 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: SuziQ
"Why did they go straight to HER house? Was it the only house in the area?"

This is the first house. The one the shots on the Marines came from when after the bomb went off. The terrorists retreated before the Marines got there.

130 posted on 06/03/2006 3:14:00 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: nmh
Unearth, hell! Who would be suprised to discover that CNN knew about the bomb ahead of time too?
131 posted on 06/03/2006 3:20:50 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Dear US Senators, Reps. and Mr. President: Why are y'all abetting the destruction of our culture?)
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To: sanjacjake
Have the bullets been taken from these bodies and checked out?

No, but about one could tell would be the caliber of weapon used. You could probably tell the difference between 5.56 and 5.54 mm rounds, but maybe not. But most Iraqi AKs are chambered for the older 7.62x39 round, and that could be distinguished. Of course nothing says the Jihadies don't have a few M-16s or AR-15s, captured, bought on the open market, or gotten as a gift from the Palistinians, who use them routinely, thanks to the Impeached One.

You can't match centerfire rifle bullets to the individual weapon nearly as easily as with pistol bullets.

132 posted on 06/03/2006 3:27:03 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: cardinal4

Maybe not even soldiers...I could hear her just saying "Americans"...

This is a VERY coached child...

I would also hear her describing the vehicle that was blown up by the IED, a "truck"..which is probably what I would call it...if called upon to just tell what I saw or knew about.


133 posted on 06/03/2006 3:28:00 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: kellynla
ya know if any of these clowns in journalism had ever served a day in uniform much less combat; they wouldn't dream of writing such trash!

Amen brother. Most of them don't seem to have the proper equipment tween thier legs.

134 posted on 06/03/2006 3:29:40 PM PDT by navyblue (at one.)
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To: SWEET OLD BILL
The Marines have been unable to exhume the bodies, which would prove or disprove guilt and they have the weapons in question

Maybe not, nothing says the Jihadies might not have a few M-16s or AR-15s (or anything else that fires the 5.56 NATO round), and it's very difficult to match high speed rifle bullets to the weapon which fired them, as can usually be done with pistol bullets.

135 posted on 06/03/2006 3:30:28 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Txsleuth

The more I read about this the more I don't believe it.....I just can't believe that these Marines would shoot women and children in the head several times....no one can convince me of this...


136 posted on 06/03/2006 3:33:18 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: tomnbeverly

She is only 12 years old and should not be called a co-conspirator. She is a victim of the whims of the male adult relatives that conspired to kill our boys. The fault should be laid at her relative's feet.


137 posted on 06/03/2006 3:34:26 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Black, Proud, Conservative!)
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To: romanesq
Agreed brother, thus my illustration. If there's one thing you can on with an Arab it's lying and if it's another it's Arab Sunni lying but the king whopper is the Arab Sunni Baathist liar.

Q. How do you know when an Arab is lying?

A. His lips are moving!

138 posted on 06/03/2006 3:34:38 PM PDT by navyblue (at one.)
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger

Thanks for posting. I think the civilians may have been duped into acting on behalf of the terrorists. This story has gotten more legs than any car bomb set off. Maybe AQ has discovered a new tactic?


139 posted on 06/03/2006 3:39:38 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Carl/NewsMax

I hope there is some reason for the killing. Did the Marines have reason to suspect that someone in the house was about to set off another explosion inside the house?


140 posted on 06/03/2006 3:40:08 PM PDT by 1955Ford
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