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2002 Document: Chemical Material Hidden Underground (Translation)
Pentagon/FMSO website Iraqi Pre-War documents ^ | June 2 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 06/02/2006 11:13:28 AM PDT by jveritas

Document Document ISGQ-2003-00004530 dated September 15 2002 is a memo from a General in Saddam Feedayeens to the Supervisor of those Feedayeens who is not other than Uday Saddam Hussein. The memo talks about a hidden large container that contain a Chemical Material and that it was buried under the ground near Fallujah back when Hussein Kamal Hussein was in charge of the Iraqi Military Industrialization Commission. Hussein Kamal was the brother in law of Saddam who fled to Jordan in 1995 exposed to the world that Saddam still have WMD and then Saddam tricked him to come back by granting him amnesty. When he returned to Iraq he was killed by the regime. If what in this document is true that this shows that one of the obvious way to hide the WMD was to bury it under the ground and in this case the difficulty of finding it in a country the size of California.

Beginning of the translation of Document ISGQ-2003-00004530 page 1 and 2.

In the Name of God The Most Compassionate The Most Merciful

The Republic of Iraq

The Presidency of the Republic

Saddam Feedayeens

Secretariat

The Supervisor of Saddam Feedayeens

2002/9

The Respected Supervisor of Saddam Feedayeens

Subject: Information

Salute and regards Sir

We received information that state the following:

1. A team from the Military Industrialization Commission when Hussein Kamel Hussein was conducting his responsibilities did bury a large container said that it contains a Chemical Material in the village (Al Subbayhat) part of the district of Karma in Fallujah in a quarry region that was used by SamSung Korean company and close to the homes of some citizens.

2. The container was buried using a fleet of concrete mixers.

3. Before the departure of the international inspectors in 1998 a United Nations helicopter flew over the region for two hours.

4. A large number of the region residents know about this container from the large number of machines used to hide it then.

5. It was noticed a non ordinary smell in the region.

6. No official visited the burial site through out the years which give the impression that it is not currently known by the Military Industrialization Commission.

7. Positions for the air defense were digged in the region that surrounds the quarry place without them knowing anything about the container. Also next to it are important headquarters like (Saddam factories-The warehouses of the Commerce ministry- Headquarters of Mujaheeden Khlaq).

Please your Excellency review and order what is appropriate Sir… With regards

Signature

General

Moohsen Abdel Karim Mahmood

General Relations

15/9/2002

End of the translation.


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To: AmeriBrit
I hope that someone remembers this. I will do an FR search myself and see what we can find on this issue.
181 posted on 06/05/2006 4:30:50 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Tarantulas

Jimmy Hoffa :-)

Seriously, who knows what the slime ball buried....We've already found Fighter aircraft buried over a 20' tail.

The thing about it is, we cant leave the country without looking for that stuff...and finding it....


182 posted on 06/05/2006 5:43:51 PM PDT by halfright (****TAG LINE CENSORED BY ADMIN MOD****)
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To: stylin19a
What seems interesting here is, that this document seems to damn-near pinpoint this place... seems somebody might want to start, just for chuckles and grins, to look there.

Some say that there are political impacts to finding out, and that people would much rather let the current uncertainty be the status quo.

-PJ

183 posted on 06/05/2006 5:56:13 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: jveritas
"2. The container was buried using a fleet of concrete mixers. "

Almost certainly still there. Anybody have David McKay's number?

184 posted on 06/07/2006 8:58:08 AM PDT by cookcounty (Change is everywhere....Got some right here in my pocket.)
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To: jveritas
j, Powerline has picked up and is hailing this one as particularly significant
185 posted on 06/07/2006 10:50:07 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I support the troops and the mission.)
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To: prairiebreeze

Excellent, thank you PB :)


186 posted on 06/07/2006 11:42:17 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: cookcounty

After reading so many Iraqi documents, I am more convinced than ever that the Iraq Survey Group has ended its mission very early and prematurely concluded that there were no WMD or programs related to it.


187 posted on 06/07/2006 11:44:42 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

So has the stash been sold on the black market yet?


188 posted on 06/07/2006 1:09:27 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: Dumb_Ox

I hope not.


189 posted on 06/07/2006 1:14:17 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: usmcobra; jveritas; All
Is there anything more we can do to figure out this missing link of locating the village of "Al Subbayhat?"
190 posted on 06/07/2006 1:38:02 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado
May be it is too small for a village to appear on Google Satellite.
191 posted on 06/07/2006 1:59:01 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: avacado

Try this wording "Sabbihat or Sabihat" and let us see if something will show up.


192 posted on 06/07/2006 1:59:50 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: usmcobra

Usmcobra made a great point, and I think a lot of readers may have missed it: The translated Iraqi letter to Uday mentioned a "fleet of concrete mixers" being used to bury...something...and gave a good (if general) description of the location. Usm pored over GoogleEarth images of the area and found a HUGE "warehouse" complex where there was no reason for such a huge complex to be.

How out of place is this? Well, the largest of these "warehouses" measures 330 feet by 165 feet--as big as a football field. And there are *twenty* of this size.

There are also lots of 'smaller' warehouses--like, 12,000 square feet each. There are *sixty-two* of those.

I know of only two activities that would need this much warehouse space: An oilfield supply business to serve an area the size of, oh, the North Sea; or a grain storage yard at a major port. Neither seems to apply in this case.

I'll bet most of these "warehouses" turn out to be empty. If our troops could get hold of three or four "ground-imaging radars" (they really exist, are inexpensive and easy to use) a half-dozen troops could scan the whole complex in a few days. Anything buried under any of the slabs should show up quickly.

Great work to jveritas and cobra.


193 posted on 06/07/2006 9:37:48 PM PDT by sfsf
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To: sfsf; jveritas
I'm about to make an even more brilliant point about The Warehouses of Mass Destruction.


A tip of the hand and a Hand Salute to you for actually measuring and counting the warehouses, but you missed something very odd about them that even I didn't notice a first glance....

NO TRUCKS OR OTHER VEHICLES!!!

 

Now if we could only find a map that would identify that village around the warehouses.

194 posted on 06/08/2006 6:35:46 PM PDT by usmcobra (A single rogue Marine, yeah that can happen, but a whole Unit, only a liberal would believe that BS)
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To: All

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50590

REBUILDING IN THE GULF
Memo reportedly shows location of WMD
Text from Saddam regime describes burial to hide from inspectors
Posted: June 10, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

A captured document from the Saddam regime but left untranslated by the Pentagon describes the hiding of chemical-weapons materials and the location of their burial in Iraq.

Joseph Shahda, who has translated a number of key texts from among the thousands made available on the Internet by the Defense Department, posted his work on the conservative forum FreeRepublic.com.

The memo, dated Sept. 15, 2002, is from the General Relations group of one of Saddam's military-intelligence organizations.

The document, signed by Moohsen Abdel Karim Mahmood, says a team from the Military Industrialization Commission "did bury a large container" that "contains a chemical material in the village" of Al Subbayhat, part of the district of Karma in Fallujah.

The area is described as a quarry region used by the South Korean manufacturer Samsung and "close to the homes of some citizens."

The container, the memo says, was buried using a "fleet of concrete mixers."

The text notes that before "the departure of the international inspectors in 1998, a United Nations helicopter flew over the region for two hours."

It also states:

* "A large number of the region residents know about this container from the large number of machines used to hide it then."

* "It was noticed a non ordinary smell in the region."

* "No official visited the burial site through out the years which give the impression that it is not currently known by the Military Industrialization Commission."

* "Positions for the air defense were digged [sic] in the region that surrounds the quarry place without them knowing anything about the container. Also next to it are important headquarters like (Saddam factories-The warehouses of the Commerce ministry- Headquarters of Mujaheeden Khlaq)."

The weblog Powerline points out the Military Industrial Commission ran the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction program before the 1991 Gulf War and continued its existence afterwards in a more covert fashion.

In November, the producer of a documentary on Saddam Hussein said there is no question the ousted Iraqi dictator possessed weapons of mass destruction.

Brad L. Maaske, who interviewed dozens of Iraqis in producing his film "Weapon of Mass Destruction: The Murderous Reign of Saddam Hussein," pointed out it does not take much to create a WMD.

"There didn't have to be massive stockpiles of chemicals," he explains. "A few 55-gallon drums of a nerve gas could kill a million people if properly dispersed, so it's not that difficult for him to get rid of what he had."


195 posted on 06/10/2006 1:05:36 AM PDT by USA Girl
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To: jveritas

Thank you again for your contributions to the truth!


196 posted on 06/10/2006 7:09:36 AM PDT by SouthTexas (Viva la Migra!)
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To: GiantCuttlefish
It is about destroying the Left argument that there was no WMD in Iraq whatsover and that President Bush lied to us to get us into the war. The vast majority of the anti-Iraq war arguments are based that Saddam regime had no WMD whatsoever and had no program related to it but President Bush deceived us all and he get us into war. This lie must be exposed and destroyed by the truth and facts. The truth must be revealed.
198 posted on 06/10/2006 8:00:59 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: SouthTexas

You are welcome.


199 posted on 06/10/2006 8:01:22 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: USA Girl

Thank you for sharing this with us :)


200 posted on 06/10/2006 8:03:10 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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