Posted on 06/01/2006 12:44:31 PM PDT by FerdieMurphy
As the immigration debate continues to roll along, without any apparent give from either side, it has truly been an eye-opening experience. The rhetoric used to distort the truth about what is happening in our country can at times makes one wonder if we can determine what is the truth. But the truth is there to see for anyone who will honestly look.
On the one hand, you have people who want to forgive and forget, allowing illegals to stay here and be put on a fast track to citizenship without any real demands on them. Some of these forgivers even want to effectively backdate illegals future citizenship so they can reap the benefits of Social Security (whether they truly paid into the system or not) from they work they did here illegally.
Much of the argument for a lax attitude towards illegal immigrants is based on either a sympathetic, if naïve, view of illegals, or a claim of needing to fill jobs that otherwise wouldnt be filled.
On the other hand, there are people who see rapid changes taking place in our society that promote disunity and an attitude of indifference toward the laws of the land. This group believes that assimilation is imperative to avoid problems that we see concerning mass immigration (such as has happened in France, the Netherlands, and other European countries), and issues that arise when there are divided linguistic and cultural traditions within the borders of one country (such as in Bosnia-Herzegovina, Canada to a lesser degree, and even in some African countries where various tribes have been thrown together thanks to colonialism and the random drawing of national borders).
Assimilation cannot take place when the influx of immigrants is so great as to permit a separate culture to thrive within our borders, and not only allows people to not assimilate, but encourages maintaining a thoroughly separate identity, culture, and language.
There comes a time when ultimately a person has to ask themselves if they desire to welcome people to our land who are looking for not only opportunity, but are looking to become one of us. The answer should clearly be that we should welcome those who see the good in our land and want to become a part of it, adding to the mix but ultimately conforming to the dominant language and culture.
We should not welcome those who want to come here to take advantage of what we have, but do not wish to become one of us. We should especially not fling open the doors and say, Anyone and everyone can come in, no waiting required, and no demands will be put on you. Take what you want, and dont worry about those supposedly in line ahead of you or those that already live and work here.
Patriotism is a love of the land and the people, and a respect for the traditions and values of that land and people. No one can, in any reasonable view of things, call themselves a patriot who embraces giving a pass to those who break into our country, violating our immigration laws, then not only refuse to assimilate, but take advantage of our legal and social systems (often without paying into those systems), and demand even more.
In fact, encouraging the illegal mass migration into America of a people group, supporting the underground employment of these people, then wanting to declare them legal, and further open the door to more from the same people group, thus threatening our culture, social system, laws, and very existence, can only be called one thing: treason.
The U.S. Senate has made it clear that they arent interested in the will or desires of the American people. They are basically violating their oaths of office, committing treason, and attempting to paper over it with a law that they have no intention of enforcing except for the part that allows more people to flood our country.
President Bush is in a position to do even more to defend this country than the Senate, and he is acting in even more treasonous ways than the Senate.
The only hope the citizens of this country have is that the House of Representatives will make a stand, or that state, county, and local officials will act on their behalf.
The evidence so far is not promising.
What is truly pathetic is that the overwhelming majority of citizens will be very unhappy with their elected officials, but when November comes around, over 80% of the people in office who have refused to do the will of the people will win re-election.
If someone worked for me and refused to handle their work in the manner I wanted, Id fire them. Why arent we firing our politicians?
Patriots know how to stand up for their land and their people. Patriots should vote the treasonous rabble out of office come November. To borrow from GWB, either you are with us or against us (the us being the American citizens and legal aliens). Patriots are for law and order, and the rights of citizens over the desires of a horde of law-breakers. Traitors are willing to see our country overrun by outsiders who want what we have, but dont want to be part of us. Justify it all you want, but anyone who is a citizen of this country and is defending illegals is betraying their country.
That's exactly right!
oh gawd... like the topic isn't HOT enough as is.
jeez....
"If someone worked for me and refused to handle their work in the manner I wanted, Id fire them. Why arent we firing our politicians?"
You can't fire these folks. We can however have an election and vote them out of office and that day is coming.
If the President were half as ambitious to close the borders and have the laws enforced as he is determined to see America undermined, we could have this and many other problems solved within two years or so.
The sad truth.
If you would listen to what President Bush says and not read what others interpret wrongly and twist what he's said, you might learn something.
Just this morning he said "we must stop the illegals coming across the borders" but most people turned their hearing aids off when he was saying that.
It's no longer a political disagreement, it's now treasonous to disagree with pinheads. Who'd a thunk it?
I just have to laugh at those who call Bush a traitor. Two months ago we weren't even talking about this issue, now it's the dividing line between Who's A Patriot and Who Isn't.
I happen to support the House bill and think Bush's religious fervor to save people is nice and all but completely wrongheaded, but he certainly hasn't changed his position since he was running in 2000, so I have to wonder about all these people who've been on this issue forever (yeah, right) who apparently voted for someone they knew was a traitor.
There's not a shred of difference between the hysteria over at DU and the hysterics here--both are emotional, both need a reality check, and both are doing everything they can to put the CommieDems in charge of our immigration laws and everything else.
It's no longer a political disagreement, it's now treasonous to disagree with pinheads. Who'd a thunk it?
I just have to laugh at those who call Bush a traitor. Two months ago we weren't even talking about this issue, now it's the dividing line between Who's A Patriot and Who Isn't.
I happen to support the House bill and think Bush's religious fervor to save people is nice and all but completely wrongheaded, but he certainly hasn't changed his position since he was running in 2000, so I have to wonder about all these people who've been on this issue forever (yeah, right) who apparently voted for someone they knew was a traitor.
There's not a shred of difference between the hysterics over at DU and the hysterics here--both are emotional, both need a reality check, and both are doing everything they can to put the CommieDems in charge of our immigration laws and everything else.
This guy is right. Good post.
Nope it's not exactly right ...
Tell me, what possible reason could an employer of illegals have for wanting them to become legal ?
"If you would listen to what President Bush says . ."
I read the account of his address to the national NGO representing businesses that employ illegal aliens.
Whatever he wants to call it, President Bush wants to give amnesty to Mexican nationals illegally in our country.
See, that's the problem: we have been listening.
Will it just magically pop up when the illegals start to come across in greater numbers in anticipation of the next amnesty? I don't think so. As a matter of fact they are already streaming across in record numbers hopeing the house will pass the shameful bill the senate signed onto.
Is it any wonder so many conservatives will be voting 3rd party this Nov?
Treason is the appropriate term to use.
"Is he building a fence or wall, NO."
Then that must be a mirage down on the So. California border.
"Is he beefing up the border patrol? No."
......WRONG!
"He is sending guard units down to train and make a show"
Tell that to the NG that will be down there in the sweltering heat building and putting up the barriers etc.,
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