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Pentagon Haditha inquiry finds false reports- WPost
Reuters ^ | 01 Jun 2006 05:00:11 GMT

Posted on 06/01/2006 7:06:37 AM PDT by delacoert

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To: Txsleuth
and some have already started their countdown to 3000...

And yet the number of KIAs (from combat) is not even at 2000. Pathetic how it's just a numbers game to these folks.

I remember having to sit through eight hours of sexual harassment training thanks to the nimrods at Tailhook. Grrrrr!

21 posted on 06/01/2006 7:55:25 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: tobyhill
As for leaker's I don't care about motivation or who authorized it and unless it's been declassified then it's illegal. It's time the leaks stopped dead in their tracks.

If the Pentagon is leaking, and it is becoming more and more apparent that it is, then the report is being selectively declassified.

22 posted on 06/01/2006 7:56:42 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: delacoert
THE MSM DEAD FAILURE REPORT

Where soldiers are only worthy of being reported on when they DIE or SCREW up.

By the way, according to the MSM, nothing else happened other than DEATH and FAILURE.

23 posted on 06/01/2006 8:00:28 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: delacoert

One incident among 160,000 soldiers over three years and untold dozens of great accomplishments and here we have something our press just salivates over.

Michael Savage is right: the reporters, editors and publishers are vermin. Call Orkin!


24 posted on 06/01/2006 8:01:22 AM PDT by RoadTest (For the love of money is the root of all evil - I Timothy 6:10)
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To: sinkspur; delacoert

More likely, the Wash Post is pulling crap out of their a**hole. Just like they always do.

Think "secret prisons". That was the last phony BS they started.

Think "looted antiquities" and ALL the handwringing, when the vast majority of th ecrap was safe and sound.

Think "Wedding party Massacre" --- the WaPost led the charge of false information.

Since when have these turds reported ANYTHING reagarding the WOT accurately??


25 posted on 06/01/2006 8:06:25 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Why is the Pentagon not seeking to plug these leaks? They could very easily do that, with a threat of prosecution.


26 posted on 06/01/2006 8:10:42 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur

It could be that the leaks are intentional-to brace us for the bad news.


27 posted on 06/01/2006 8:12:37 AM PDT by ktvaughn (I avoid cliches like the plague...)
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To: Coop

Of course the liberal media constantly uses the numbers game against our troops but of course never mentions the tens of thousands of terrorists who were killed and captured by us. No need to demoralize the terrorists and their supporters, but it is always their treasonous mission to demoralize the public and hence to damage the war efforts.


28 posted on 06/01/2006 8:13:12 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: ktvaughn
It could be that the leaks are intentional-to brace us for the bad news.

I don't believe there can be any doubt that they are intentional. There are too many of them, and they are not showing any signs of being stopped.

29 posted on 06/01/2006 8:16:51 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur

My guess is that the leakers aren't tied to the investigation at all, but going by hearsay. Hard to stop a leak of that kind. But to the WaPost, a janitor who once worked at the Pentagon's chow hall is a reliable source and a source "close to the investigation"


30 posted on 06/01/2006 8:23:10 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
My guess is that the leakers aren't tied to the investigation at all, but going by hearsay.

I think the leakers are being authorized by the Pentagon to stretch the revelations in this story out over a matter of weeks, which is exactly what is happening, to soften the reaction to the details when they are officially released.

A janitor would be worthless as a source if what he says could not be believed or verified by another source. (Notice that most of these sources are saying the same things)

31 posted on 06/01/2006 8:30:42 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur

Try this source: On record

Lieut. Colonel Michelle Martin-Hing, spokeswoman for the Multi-National Force-Iraq, told Time the involvement of the ncis does not mean that a crime occurred. And she says the fault for the civilian deaths lies squarely with the insurgents, who "placed noncombatants in the line of fire as the Marines responded to defend themselves."

Or explain how the WaPo completely screwed up a On Record source: (From Hugh Hewitt):

The Post has been unable to get anyone from the Pentagon on the record on the investigation, using mostly anonymous sources. The one man they did get on the record on Friday was retired Brig. Gen. David H. Brahms, a long-time lawyer with the Marine Corps who has experience with these types of cases. His quote is in the third paragraph. See if you can guess why the prominent first-quote placement:

"When these investigations come out, there's going to be a firestorm," said retired Brig. Gen. David M. Brahms, formerly a top lawyer for the Marine Corps. "It will be worse than Abu Ghraib -- nobody was killed at Abu Ghraib."
I have a feeling someone was lying in wait for an Abu Ghraib reference. I read the quote and was taken aback because I spoke to the same Brig. Gen. David M. Brahms about the case this week, and his sentiments were very different from those presented in the Post. Which explains why he sent me this statement yesterday:

"Recent reporting on the events in Haditha, Iraq have included significant factual errors and/or misleading statements. This includes a quote attributed to me in the Washington Post this morning that was taken completely out of context and its meaning distorted. Many facts that are favorable to the Marines involved have not yet been disclosed."

Your faith in the veracity of the MSM is alarming.


32 posted on 06/01/2006 8:40:31 AM PDT by pissant
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Also it has been reported that the company commander of the unit in question is being represented by none other than Paul HAckett. I certainly hope that he is doing what he can to get the truth out and not leaking selective information to throw people under the bus.

IT really frosts me how this media lynching is taking shape.


33 posted on 06/01/2006 8:51:34 AM PDT by slapshot (""USAF- when you absolutely, positively need it delivered on target, on time, right away)
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To: pissant
Except that Brahms statement to the person putting up that story on Hewitt's website essentially said the same thing that the media had quoted him saying in the first place.

Look it up.

34 posted on 06/01/2006 9:04:14 AM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur

Well, if he thinks he was miscontrued and taken out of context, then I'll go with him, not the WaPost. If you are unaware of the malfeasance over the last few years of the Post, then I can't help ya.


35 posted on 06/01/2006 9:08:02 AM PDT by pissant
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To: delacoert

Guilty until proven innocent bump.


36 posted on 06/01/2006 9:11:17 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ginty for US Senate -- NJ's primary day is June 6 -- www.gintyforsenate.org)
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To: delacoert

Brig General Brahms,"Many facts that are favorable to the Marines have not yet been disclosed."And they won't be if the msm has anything to do with it.


37 posted on 06/01/2006 9:14:43 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: pissant; CMS; The Sailor; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; OneLoyalAmerican; bkwells; ...

Try this source: On record

Lieut. Colonel Michelle Martin-Hing, spokeswoman for the Multi-National Force-Iraq, told Time the involvement of the ncis does not mean that a crime occurred. And she says the fault for the civilian deaths lies squarely with the insurgents, who "placed noncombatants in the line of fire as the Marines responded to defend themselves."

Or explain how the WaPo completely screwed up a On Record source: (From Hugh Hewitt):

The Post has been unable to get anyone from the Pentagon on the record on the investigation, using mostly anonymous sources. The one man they did get on the record on Friday was retired Brig. Gen. David H. Brahms, a long-time lawyer with the Marine Corps who has experience with these types of cases. His quote is in the third paragraph. See if you can guess why the prominent first-quote placement:

"When these investigations come out, there's going to be a firestorm," said retired Brig. Gen. David M. Brahms, formerly a top lawyer for the Marine Corps. "It will be worse than Abu Ghraib -- nobody was killed at Abu Ghraib."
I have a feeling someone was lying in wait for an Abu Ghraib reference. I read the quote and was taken aback because I spoke to the same Brig. Gen. David M. Brahms about the case this week, and his sentiments were very different from those presented in the Post. Which explains why he sent me this statement yesterday:

"Recent reporting on the events in Haditha, Iraq have included significant factual errors and/or misleading statements. This includes a quote attributed to me in the Washington Post this morning that was taken completely out of context and its meaning distorted. Many facts that are favorable to the Marines involved have not yet been disclosed."

32 posted on 06/01/2006 8:40:31 AM PDT by pissant
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38 posted on 06/01/2006 9:34:18 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Support the troops by exposing the threats to them like hanoi kerry, cut and run murtha, Code Pink,)
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To: delacoert

The janitor.


39 posted on 06/01/2006 9:38:15 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (If you got Sowell, you got Soul)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT


40 posted on 06/01/2006 9:38:42 AM PDT by StarCMC ("The word of muslims will never, ever override what our U.S. Marines say." - TheCrusader)
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