How quaint, they now want my vote. This is going to be an entertaining election year.
To: isaiah55version11_0
Evangelicals are only swing voters in the sense they may stay home. The anti-religion, pro-abortion, pro-gay Democrats have no chance of actually getting evangelicals to vote for them.
To: isaiah55version11_0
Do evangelicals listen to Cardinal Mahoney and the catholic church? With all his discussion, exposure and support those that actually don't want to talk to an evangelical might get that impression.
3 posted on
06/01/2006 6:31:52 AM PDT by
edcoil
(Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
To: isaiah55version11_0
Evangelicals swinging..
...When Hell freezes over
Gotta love the MSM. When Evangelicals get angry at RINO's for being too liberal the OBVIOUS answer is that they will decide to vote Democrats in who are even more liberal than the RINO's. Makes perfect sense (/Sarc)
5 posted on
06/01/2006 6:36:49 AM PDT by
Rameumptom
(Gen X = they killed 1 in 4 of us)
To: isaiah55version11_0
The true swing voter is the guy with a gun and a confederate flag mounted in the back of a pick up truck.
And Howard Dean is aggressively courting that voting bloc.
6 posted on
06/01/2006 6:37:36 AM PDT by
staytrue
(Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
To: isaiah55version11_0
Democrats these days are a party on a mission that might sound impossible: to persuade evangelical Christian voters to consider converting -- to the Democratic Party.They think that an anti-Christian party has a prayer at getting the evangelical vote? It is true that evangelicals are becoming more and more disgruntled with Bush, but they are not becoming more and more enamored with the Democrats.
7 posted on
06/01/2006 6:40:30 AM PDT by
SeƱor Zorro
("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
To: isaiah55version11_0
Seventy-five to one hundred years ago, and prior, "Evangelical" meant the same thing that "Fundamentalist" meant 20 years ago, and maybe even more fundamentalist. Now "Evangelical" churches are quite liberal, mushy-gushy, soft-fuzzy, feel-good religionists, when compared to the Evangelicals prior to the Second World War. People today who hold Pre-Depression era Biblicist standards label today's Evangelicals as "Neo-evangelical," or outright liberal.
Modern Evangelicals interpret the multitude of modern English Bible versions (which are all based on a text that resembles Jerome's Vulgate, except the King James Bible) very loosely, and in a way that allows them to mimic the un-Christian world, while telling more old-fashioned Biblicists (who are more like the Evangelicals of 75 years ago and prior) "judge not lest ye be judged." They do this to insulate their own worldliness from biblical scrutiny. They wouldn't know how to interpret Matthew chapter 7 with its proper cross-references in Deuteronomy, because the modern "Evangelicals" are not good Bible students (most don't even have a good Bible that convicts them of personal sin and worldliness when they read it...if they read it much at all).
So, in the end, modern Evangelicals are not going to consistently vote either moral, patriotic or constitutional.
To: isaiah55version11_0
They swing all right, from conservative to MORE conservative. That is if they are real evangelicals and not "liberal Christians."
To: isaiah55version11_0
Rick Warren's ("The Purpose Filled Life" author) flirtation with environmentalism and/or poverty eradication by government dictate is helping to fuel the speculation.
I also suspect the noveau "Emerging Church" movement that is sometimes very subjective in its approach is another factor in making the leftists think they can make inroads.
To: isaiah55version11_0
This is nonsens -- the Evangelicals are the last bastion of Bush support!
I'd argue that the "swing" voters are the "socially liberal (live and let live types)/ Politically Conservative (for limited govt)".
Bush is a Social Conservative. He is *not* a political conservative, quite apparently.
The 'Contract with America' revolution of 94 was all about "political conservative" issues like govt corruption, lower spending, etc. That's what made the current Rs the majority. Now, clearly, they have all abandoned those of us who are politically C.
I predict either the Rs start to take action on 'politically conservative' issues like the ones in the contract with america or else they will lose their majority.
And they will deserve to.
Someone yest put it best (sorry I can't remember who, where, to give them credit):
"The party I voted for in '94 has become the party I voted against in '94."
16 posted on
06/01/2006 7:54:39 AM PDT by
Dominic Harr
(Conservative = Careful, as in 'Conservative with money')
To: isaiah55version11_0
1) The Evangelicals stayed home in 2000 and almost handed the country to satan. They recognized that and didn't make the same mistake in 2004. They won't make that mistake in 2006 or 08 either.
2) The Evangelicals are the GOP's Blacks except they are even more valuable because they not only vote, but work for candidates and contribute to candidates. This means they take themselves out of the "groups to worry about column". That helps too. They do not need courting or hand holding.
19 posted on
06/01/2006 10:48:03 AM PDT by
jmaroneps37
(John Spencer: Fighting to save America from Hillary Clinton..)
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