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To: BurbankKarl

Doesn't the Electoral College system help ensure that the President represents the whole country? If the voters in a few heavily populated states could determine the outcome (because they would determine the popular vote) wouldn't Presidential candidates pander to urbanized areas and ignore rural states?


19 posted on 05/31/2006 3:18:49 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

That is what they are hoping for...I think 2/3rds of the states need to pass the law....


21 posted on 05/31/2006 3:20:19 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Doesn't the Electoral College system help ensure that the President represents the whole country? If the voters in a few heavily populated states could determine the outcome (because they would determine the popular vote) wouldn't Presidential candidates pander to urbanized areas and ignore rural states?

Yes. The Electoral College discourages regional candidates in several ways. It also moderates the effect of a regional disaster (like a hurricane suppressing votes in the east or south), and limits the effects of vote fraud (massive fraud in Florida doesn't directly affect Georgia).

46 posted on 05/31/2006 3:36:36 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

If the voters in a few heavily populated states could determine the outcome (because they would determine the popular vote) wouldn't Presidential candidates pander to urbanized areas and ignore rural states?

You mean blue cities and red states?

Exactly.


49 posted on 05/31/2006 3:38:42 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Doesn't the Electoral College system help ensure that the President represents the whole country? If the voters in a few heavily populated states could determine the outcome (because they would determine the popular vote) wouldn't Presidential candidates pander to urbanized areas and ignore rural states?

Good conclusion, but not a great argument. The big problem with the popular vote is that it would reward states that were willing to over-count their vote. If Rhode Island came up with 50 million votes for Hilary, then by golly we don't know how it happened, but she wins.

66 posted on 05/31/2006 3:49:52 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

"Doesn't the Electoral College system help ensure that the President represents the whole country? If the voters in a few heavily populated states could determine the outcome (because they would determine the popular vote) wouldn't Presidential candidates pander to urbanized areas and ignore rural states?"

Exactly! Surely the tolerant, voice of the little guy Democrats would recognize this. This shows why Bush didn't bother coming to the most populous state during the 04 campaign.


81 posted on 05/31/2006 4:01:27 PM PDT by jw777
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

"Doesn't the Electoral College system help ensure that the President represents the whole country?"

Yes, which is why the big blue states (CA and NY) hate it so much.


92 posted on 05/31/2006 4:07:54 PM PDT by piytar
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
That is exactly why the Founding Fathers devised the Electoral College. It protects the minorities and it gives fractional populations (rural areas) more voice, or what the Left calls (and continually demands) proportional representation.

For all their talk of representing minorities and giving voice to the overlooked, the Dems are really stepping in it by trying to undo the Electoral College.
110 posted on 05/31/2006 4:21:22 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Yes.


124 posted on 05/31/2006 4:36:11 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
If the voters in a few heavily populated states could determine the outcome (because they would determine the popular vote) wouldn't Presidential candidates pander to urbanized areas and ignore rural states?

Indeed. Most of redstate America would never lay eyes on a presidential candidate in the flesh.

208 posted on 05/31/2006 10:08:21 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Exactly right...


222 posted on 05/31/2006 11:56:00 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Doesn't the Electoral College system help ensure that the President represents the whole country? If the voters in a few heavily populated states could determine the outcome (because they would determine the popular vote) wouldn't Presidential candidates pander to urbanized areas and ignore rural states?
Welcome to a Democracy where every vote counts. Isn't it great! Not too much longer and 51% of the people will be able to vote out most of your basic unalienable rights.

In a Gramscian move calling our Republic a Democracy and convincing people that they're the same thing was the beginning of things. There is no "semantics" in the non-violent political overthrow of a government, which is exactly what has been happening for years.
As long as nobody in the public eye recognizes the Republic that we are things won't change.

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Power, in Gramsci’s observation, is exercised by privileged groups or classes in two ways: through domination, force, or coercion; and through something called "hegemony," which means the ideological supremacy of a system of values that supports the class or group interests of the predominant classes or groups. Subordinate groups, he argued, are influenced to internalize the value systems and world views of the privileged groups and, thus, to consent to their own marginalization.

231 posted on 06/01/2006 2:23:25 AM PDT by philman_36
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