[dfwgator]

Why are y'all jumping on me, I didn't make the rules, I'm just the messenger here.

There is no comparison between guns and autos. It does not require any infrastructure for you to have a gun. It does however require roads to drive, and roads are a key part of our infrastructure, which is one of the legitimate roles for government.

To say that driving is a right, the same as the right to free speech or the right to bear arms is folly.

And as for not wearing seat belts only affecting the passenger, a passenger without seat belts in an accident can become a projectile that can pose a threat to others.

Now if you extremist libertarians want it your way, I'll make a deal. You can go without wearing seat belts, if you also will agree to paying all of your medical bills out of your own pocket without causing everybody else's insurance rates to go up, should you get injured. And oh by the way, no death benefits for your survivors should you get killed, why should the rest of us pay for your stupidity?

I think you libertarians should be ok with that, right?

[Atlas Sneezed]

You can go without wearing seat belts, if you also will agree to paying all of your medical bills out of your own pocket without causing everybody else's insurance rates to go up, should you get injured. And oh by the way, no death benefits for your survivors should you get killed, why should the rest of us pay for your stupidity?

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That's fine, as long as you do not deny us the right to contract among ourselves, or with a private insurance comapany, to insure ourselves against risks among ourselves, presumably with discounts for those who agree not to be covered for harm that occurs when driving without a seatbelt, OK?

(And your post incorrectly implies that anyone is advicating not wearing seatbelts. Read the article AGAIN, if you are still confused. Liberty is not about not doing the right things, it is about not being FORCED to do the right thing.)

[chrispycsuf]

right on...my point exactly...you just articulate it better

[from occupied ga]

You can go without wearing seat belts, if you also will agree to paying all of your medical bills out of your own pocket without causing everybody else's insurance rates to go up, should you get injured. And oh by the way, no death benefits for your survivors should you get killed, why should the rest of us pay for your stupidity? I think you libertarians should be ok with that, right?

YES!!! Let everyone pay for their own medical bills without government forcing medical care providers to provide their services to those who have spent their money on other things. Works for me - excellent idea.

[Old Professer]

The state has claimed the air; bullets don't burrow efficiently, his point remains.

[GregoryFul]

Your argument could be made about Health Insurance and dietary, exercise, and lifestyle choices. I expect you would be on the side of mandating exercise, no sugar, only good fats, no anal intercourse - etc. Since all these drive up your health insurance premiums.

[philman_36]

..I'm just the messenger here.
For whom are you a messenger? /rhetorical