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Black, Hispanic pupils see school as tough
Yahoo news ^ | May 30, 2006 | BEN FELLER

Posted on 05/31/2006 8:10:32 AM PDT by blueminnesota

Edited on 05/31/2006 11:57:30 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The findings suggest that many minority kids are struggling in the equivalent of a hostile work environment, according to Public Agenda, a nonpartisan opinion research group that tracks education trends.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; atriskstudents; education; gangsaretheanswer; herewegoagain; minorities; school
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Quick! More affirmative action!
1 posted on 05/31/2006 8:10:35 AM PDT by blueminnesota
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To: blueminnesota

The parade of foolishness marches on


2 posted on 05/31/2006 8:12:30 AM PDT by Fighting Irish
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a hostile work environment

I wish I would have thought of that one when I was in school! What a reason to stay home!

These kids should learn that life is a hostile work environment and you learn to survive just fine eventually.
3 posted on 05/31/2006 8:12:51 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: blueminnesota

Gee, maybe there's something about my ancestry I don't know. School was always tough and it never got easier.


4 posted on 05/31/2006 8:13:50 AM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: blueminnesota

Quick more hip-hop, more rap!


5 posted on 05/31/2006 8:13:52 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: blueminnesota

Or perhaps they are suffering under the "soft" bigotry of low expectations and victimology.


6 posted on 05/31/2006 8:14:16 AM PDT by Fudd
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So young, so angry, damn that rap music!


7 posted on 05/31/2006 8:14:40 AM PDT by wastedyears
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To: blueminnesota
Public schools are a "hostile work environment" for blacks and hispanics?

Whites, boys, Christians could legitimately make that claim. Blacks and hispanics? Or Gays? A hostile environment????

Next news story: Pope complains that Vatican policies are unfair to Catholics.

9 posted on 05/31/2006 8:15:30 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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If you read the article it indicates that black and Hispanic school children believe that the answer is not affirmative action but much stricter classroom discipline, more challenging coursework and more of a work ethic exhibited by themselves and their peers.

In other words, common sense.

The headline and the spin contradict the substance of the survey.

10 posted on 05/31/2006 8:15:40 AM PDT by wideawake
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""I wish I would have thought of that one when I was in school! What a reason to stay home!""


R O T F L M A O


11 posted on 05/31/2006 8:17:17 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: ClearCase_guy

If they say that about public schools, what do they say about city colleges?


13 posted on 05/31/2006 8:18:52 AM PDT by wastedyears
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Shoot, I was a white kid and I thought school was hard.

Harder than TV anyway


14 posted on 05/31/2006 8:19:47 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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There were some in California who suggested that the answer to this problem would be to lower the standards for high school graduation, to eliminate the "exit exam", which they thought was "too difficult" for English language learners.

In other words, if they couldn't read English and answer questions that any high schooler should know, graduate them anyway, give them a meaningless diploma, problem solved...

This is the kind of thinking that goes on in this invaded state.

16 posted on 05/31/2006 8:27:21 AM PDT by janetgreen
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Why is this a surprise? Teachers have been complaining about this problem for years. Yet, the "my rights" crowd prohibts the schools from doing anything about the disruptors. Thus, the illusory rights of the bad apples trump the legitamate rights of the kids there to learn.


17 posted on 05/31/2006 8:28:23 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: blueminnesota; Fighting Irish; P-40; Individual Rights in NJ; ClearCase_guy
Did any of you bother to read the article before posting?

I'd like to point out this little nugget:

About eight in 10 said it is good for school districts to require higher standards, even if that means kids must go to summer school. Almost 60 percent of black students acknowledged they could try a little harder, compared to 53 percent of Hispanics and 46 percent of whites.

I went to the kind of high school where a lot of the teachers were afraid of the students, and that type of environment most certainly DOES distract from one's education. This article is right on the mark, and it should be chalked up as yet another reason to homeschool or put your kids in private or parochial schools.

18 posted on 05/31/2006 8:28:44 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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"The findings suggest that many minority kids are struggling in the equivalent of a hostile work environment, according to Public Agenda, a nonpartisan opinion research group that tracks education trends."

Instead of blaming others, minorities should (as Cosby has advised) look in the mirror. If there is a "hostile work environment" it is caused not by the schools, teachers, principals, etc., it is caused by those students that could care less about an education.

The experience of the court case in Kansas City is revealing. The Federal Courts imposed massive spending and busing of children that has been in effect now for many years, with little or no improvement in the results. Money is not the answer, as this article would have it. This article gives the impression that if more money were spent on schools in minority areas that the hostile environment would go away. NOT without a change in the culture of the thugs in our schools, of any race.
19 posted on 05/31/2006 8:29:34 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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Well said. Life isn't easy, and ironically, when I came to understand that, it got easier.


20 posted on 05/31/2006 8:31:04 AM PDT by Malesherbes (i AGR)
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