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IRA were behind 58pc of Troubles
Belfast Today ^ | 30 May 2006 | Not stated

Posted on 05/30/2006 1:19:49 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite

IRA were behind 48pc of Troubles murders A UNIVERSITY of Ulster academic yesterday blamed the IRA for the overwhelming majority of murders during the Troubles.

Henry Patterson, Professor of History at Jordanstown, challenged the view that the Northern Ireland conflict was a simple "war of liberation" by republicans against colonial interests and said there were key differences between the Troubles in Northern Ireland and struggles in Africa and Latin America. He told the sixth International Conference of The Spanish Association for Irish Studies at the University of Valladolid in Spain that the Provisional IRA was responsible for 48 per cent of deaths while the RUC was responsible for just 1.4 per cent and the UDR 0.2 per cent.

Mr Patterson pointed out that even if claims of widespread collusion between state forces and loyalist paramilitaries were true and 50 per cent of those killed by loyalists were added to the security forces' figure, it would still amount to only 17 per cent of all deaths.

In an address entitled War of National Liberation or Ethnic Cleansing: IRA violence in Fermanagh during the Troubles, Prof Patterson examined the IRA campaign in the county. Prof Patterson recalled how the IRA in Fermanagh had carried out a number of widely-condemned killings including the Enniskillen Poppy Day bombing, and said many unionists believed the campaign in the county was a form of ethnic cleansing.

"No doubt many Provisionals then and now would sincerely and forcefully deny that their campaign in Fermanagh was a form of ethnic cleansing," he said. "As we have seen, most of the Protestants killed were in the security forces, and Fermanagh did not experience the wholesale evacuation of Protestants that occurred in West Cork during the War of Independence. "Yet, that the killings struck at the Protestant community's morale, sense of security and belonging in the area was undeniable. "It was being made clear to them that they could continue to live in Fermanagh, but only on terms defined by the Provisional IRA." Prof Patterson said the conflicting views of the Troubles – was it a war of liberation or ethnic cleansing? – has been one of the reasons for the unease with the peace process among the unionist community. 30 May 2006


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To: wideawake

True, it could have been resolved a lot sooner by peaceful means.


61 posted on 02/08/2007 12:03:11 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

You can send a "report abuse" to the moderator regarding a headline correction, and the will usually take care of it for you.


62 posted on 02/08/2007 12:03:43 PM PST by presidio9 (There is something wonderful about a country that produces a brave and humble man like Wesley Autrey)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

You can send a "report abuse" to the moderator regarding a headline correction, and the will usually take care of it for you.


63 posted on 02/08/2007 12:03:44 PM PST by presidio9 (There is something wonderful about a country that produces a brave and humble man like Wesley Autrey)
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To: hosepipe

Yeah, and even if it wasn't, still doesn't justify them, it's another reason to hate them, I guess! :)


64 posted on 02/08/2007 12:04:23 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
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To: presidio9
You can send a "report abuse" to the moderator regarding a headline correction, and the will usually take care of it for you.

I'm tempted not to bother seeing as it's 6 months old... but seeing as I'll be most likey reporting abuse on #39, I might do it then! :-P

65 posted on 02/08/2007 12:07:38 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
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To: Thunderpants


Terrorism is terrorism. The IRA is no better than the nutcases who blow up abortion clinics.


66 posted on 02/08/2007 12:09:01 PM PST by presidio9 (There is something wonderful about a country that produces a brave and humble man like Wesley Autrey)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
[ Yeah, and even if it wasn't, still doesn't justify them, it's another reason to hate them, I guess! :) ]

But half or so of British parliament is also a Marxist organization/cabal or at least dupes..

67 posted on 02/08/2007 12:15:15 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite; Thunderpants
...do you unequivically condemn all IRA activity?

If the answer is anything other than a simple 'yes', you are a troll, end of story!

And Gráinne has no tolerance for trolls

68 posted on 02/08/2007 12:18:18 PM PST by jla
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To: hosepipe

True, Tony Blair is one of them!


69 posted on 02/08/2007 12:21:06 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
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To: jla

Plus she's a Mayo woman.. we don't like IRA types around here! ;)


70 posted on 02/08/2007 12:22:19 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

I thought she was from Clare?


71 posted on 02/08/2007 12:32:31 PM PST by jla
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To: jla

I think she was born in Galway and grew up in Mayo.


72 posted on 02/08/2007 12:37:26 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

They grow 'em pretty in Mayo.


73 posted on 02/08/2007 12:41:33 PM PST by jla
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To: jla

They do, beef producing county! ;)


74 posted on 02/08/2007 12:44:29 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

I do not condemn ALL IRA activity, no.

I condemn attacks on civilian targets.

I don't condemn attacks on legitimate military targets.


75 posted on 02/08/2007 1:36:45 PM PST by Thunderpants
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To: wideawake

Are you at all familiar with the The Troubles?


76 posted on 02/08/2007 1:39:38 PM PST by Thunderpants
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To: Thunderpants
Much more familiar than you are.
77 posted on 02/08/2007 1:40:24 PM PST by wideawake
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To: presidio9

The IRA conducted attacks on military targets. The IRA also conducted attacks n civilian targets. Those attacks were reprehensible.

The British Army, Ulster forces and Loyalist groups almost exclusively attacked civilian targets.


78 posted on 02/08/2007 1:41:59 PM PST by Thunderpants
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To: wideawake

You say.


79 posted on 02/08/2007 1:43:09 PM PST by Thunderpants
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To: Thunderpants
You say.

I know.

Childish fingerpointers who excuse terrorism clearly know less about the sufferings of the people living in Ireland outside the Republic than someone whose family has suffered the effects.

Take your justifications for murder and shove them where the sun don't shine.

80 posted on 02/08/2007 1:48:03 PM PST by wideawake
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