Posted on 05/30/2006 10:13:00 AM PDT by pissant
WASHINGTON - Military investigators piecing together what happened in the Iraqi town of Al-Hadithah on Nov. 19, 2005 -- when Marines allegedly killed two dozen civilians -- have access to video shot by a pilotless aircraft that was circling overhead for at least part of that day, military defense attorneys familiar with the case said in interviews.
It is unclear whether the video obtained from that day's flight captured the violence, said the attorneys, who have consulted with Marines who were there. One attorney said investigators have reviewed surveillance footage taken hours after the shootings, which showed the Marines returning to the town to remove the bodies of the Iraqis.
Monday, Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said charges will be issued if the evidence merits it. For now, ``it would be premature for me to judge'' the outcome of the two U.S. military investigations, Pace said on CBS's ``The Early Show.''
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And i wouuld not imagine that terrorists would put people up to saying such things, would they?
One doesn't follow from the other.
" mostly Iraqi hearsay"
I didn't post any Iraqi hearsay. I asked if you had a problem with anything I posted.
"Women kneeling in prayer being executed -- sound like the USMC? "
The Marines shot up 2 families in 2 different houses in succession. Sound like the USMC?
"We can all agree something bad happened."
I think it did. I don't know the reason it happened yet.
There are too many good Marines who risk death to themselves rather than fire on a civilian to cover-up for thuggish behavior that may have resulted in the deaths of 24 unarmed people.
As news reports trickle out, it appears there may have been three or four ringleaders, and seven or eight bystanders who did nothing to stop a massacre.
We gotta keep track of these threads. Delacoert has started. Looks like you are doing your homework as well. thank you for the effort, Velveeta
Delacoert, thought you'd like to see Velveeta's most recent post.
Yes! Thank you.
Do you think if dead babies were in the pictures taken the same damn day, that the USMC investigators would do nothing?
This civilian will presume the Marines to be innocent unless proven otherwise.
For now, I see too many discrepancies and way too much opportunity for propaganda, to take the word of the lefties.
The 15 were killed by the bomb. The insurgents were killed later in the day, 2 blocks away and Harriers were involved.
Time was told in Jan '06 that the families were killed by the bomb. It took a probe to determine they were not.
I agree, there is no connection between payments and atrocities. On that we agree.
You posted the Time articles which rely on ALOT of iraqi hearsay. That was my point.
No it does NOT sound like the USMC. Shooting up families most certainly does not. And the only ones who so far have said they did are John Murtha and the MSM. And Murtha tossed in the "cold blooded" murder charge to boot. And Duncan Hunter got the same briefing as Murtha and says Murtha is NOT correct in regards to the material in the briefing.
Time relies on Iraqi contributors, amateurs. That does not disqualify their story our of hand, but it sure makes me NEED to learn a helluva lot more before I jump on the "likely guilty" bandwagon. This has Wedding Party Massacre written all over it.
So will I. But there are more and more questions that certainly don't help the Marines.
Fog of war?
Yes, polite "cold blooded" murderers, apparently. /s.
Within the first 24 hours the military said a Marine and civilians were killed by a roadside bomb AND "Iraqi Army soldiers and Marines returned fire killing eight insurgents."
Don't forget that we haven't seen the actual after-action reports, just media reports.
Hook, line and sinker, my friend.
:o)
Maybe. But there are way too many questions that don't have a satisfactory answer yet to come to that conclusion.
And as others have been pointing out, more and more tall tales repeated in the MSM.
Everyone should step back a moment and look at this controversy for what it is; we are at war and difficult, second guess situations come up every day. Political factions on many sides want to blame US forces for anything they possibly can and the media is a major player in this conflict. On the whole, this war is being conducted with the highest level of professional and humanitarian conduct in history by any measure imaginable. Our soldiers are saints and heros on the battlefield, which is why morale is high and re-elistments are at record levels, especially among Iraq vets.
We ARE winning, we are rapidly drawing down forces and it is now totally up to the Iraqis whether THEY want to have a thriving, free nation or not.
The MSM simply is unable to portray a US victory in Iraq. This is in stark contrast to early invasion coverage, which was far more balanced. This says alot about accuracy in reporting and the editorial and systemic bias built into the MSM. They are herd animals and seem to be unable and unwilling to escape it.
Yes, and WAY too many questions regarding the MSM's sources to give a crap what they say at this point.
"Apparently, that is not quick enough for some folks."
Do you see anyone on FR extending facts beyond what's already known? That doesn't include speculation.
"Would you defend an accused by facts, in this matter, or prosecute by hearsay in the media?"
Prosecution is accompanied by facts, not hearsay.
You give herd animals a bad name. They follow unknowingly. The MSM knows what its doing. Otherwise a cogent post. ;o)
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