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Let Illegal Aliens Support Amnesty RINOs
HumanEventsOnline ^ | 05/30/2006 | Mac Johnson

Posted on 05/30/2006 6:08:51 AM PDT by NapkinUser

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To: staytrue
Really? It's full of crap? Let's compare the 2005 ACU Ratings:

Best of the Best (100 ACU rating):

George Allen (R-VA): Nay
Sam Brownback (R-KS): Yaa
Conrad Burns (R-MT): Nay
Tom Coburn (R-OK): Nay
Mike Crapo (R-ID): Nay
John Ensign (R-NV): Nay
James Inhofe (R-OK): Nay
Johnny Isakson (R-GA): Nay
Jon Kyl (R-AZ): Nay
Mel Martinez (R-FL): Yea
Mitch McConnell (R-KY): Yea
Jeff Sessions (R-AL): Nay

Worst of the worst (0 rating from ACU)

Jon Corzine (D-NJ): NV
Richard Durbin (D-IL): Yea
Edward Kennedy (D-MA): Yea
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ): Yea
Patrick Leahy (D-VT): Yea
Patty Murray (D-WA): Yea
Jack Reed (D-RI): Yea
Paul Sarbanes (D-MD): Yea

Source One
Source Two

21 posted on 05/30/2006 6:54:07 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Why isn't there a 'virtual fence' around the White House?)
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To: lemura
"In addition to lack of enforcement at either the border or employers"

Again Bush does not vote in the US Senate.
And the majority of Republican Senators voted AGAINST The Senate Bill.
RATS voted 39-4 FOR this evil Senate Bill.
This IS a RATS amnesty Bill.

As or the boarders, they have been like that long, long, long before President Bush took power.
You better go blame JFK as well while you are about it.
22 posted on 05/30/2006 6:54:29 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison

Should read:

Incredibly, Chaffee actually voted AGAINST the excellent conservative Justice Alito.
Now that is as far beyond the pale as you can get.
Chaffee is a joke.
Unfortunately, he is going to win reelection, with a lot of his votes coming from the RATS voters in his very, liberal state.


23 posted on 05/30/2006 6:57:39 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Savage Beast

Than I have a ques for you, why are members of our party VOTING WITH and for THE LIBERAL socialists?

This Senate version is a disaster , yes 23 of the rino's voted in FAVOR of the libs and with the libs, they may be rino's but how dare they vote against the party they proclaim to be with.

We are all well aware of what this Country will be like IF dem libs take power BUT our side is giving them power now by voting with and for their disastrous bills.

WE are NOT allowing dems to take power the rino's are.

The rino's are ruining this country by allowing the dems to give amnesty to illegals and not only amnesty but social security benefits, amnesty for the illegals employers, welfare benefits, EIC benefits basically the entire country.!

We should not be blamed the rinos are to blame they are giving away power!

The Senators who voted against this horrendous sick socialist bill have been sent emails thanking them for staying true to Conservative ideals and we are indeed grateful to them but right now it is a lose lose situation unless House can pull it out of the fire!


24 posted on 05/30/2006 6:58:59 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: NapkinUser

Building on post #21, out of 12 senators with 100 ACU ratings, 9 voted for against this amnesty bill. And six out of seven of the senators with a ZERO rating from the ACU voted for this amnesty bill, and it would have been seven out of seven if Corzine hadn't left office to serve as New Jersey governor.


25 posted on 05/30/2006 6:59:01 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Why isn't there a 'virtual fence' around the White House?)
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To: savedbygrace
At least 14 of the Republicans who voted in favor of the Senate immigration bill are NOT up for re-election in 2006. To suggest we wait past the 2006 elections to take action is a non-starter.

And how do you propose getting rid of people who are not up for reelection ? My solution is to get rid of the democrats who are up for reelection.

26 posted on 05/30/2006 7:01:50 AM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: stopem
why are members of our party VOTING WITH and for THE LIBERAL socialists?

Because they think the eventualy senate/house conference bill will be better than doing nothing. Further, the senate needs 60 to pass anything.

27 posted on 05/30/2006 7:04:07 AM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: staytrue
"My solution is to get rid of the democrats who are up for reelection"

I support anything that gets rid of RATS. :)
Especially since most of the RATS voted for amnesty.
28 posted on 05/30/2006 7:05:43 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: NapkinUser

From NationalLedger.com

Commentary
Bush: ‘Read My Lips – No New Amnesty’
By Nicholas Stix
May 29, 2006

When George Herbert Walker Bush was the Republican presidential nominee for the first time, in 1988, he told the Republican National Convention, “Read my lips: No new taxes.” It became his most effective campaign slogan, and one of the keys to his electoral victory.

But Bush the Elder ultimately raised taxes. In 1992, his base responded variously by staying at home or by voting for third-party candidate Ross Perot, thus bringing brought about the election of Bill Clinton.

Immigrants are Our Future

Bush the Younger fancies himself much smarter than his father. Thus, he did not announce, during either of his presidential campaigns, his plan to grant an amnesty to what now amounts to – according to pro-illegal immigration Bear Stearns economists Robert Justich and Betty Ng – over 20 million illegal immigrants plus their parents plus their children plus their siblings plus anyone who will pay them to say they are blood relatives, much less his plan to bring in, according to an analysis by Sen. Jeff Sessions’ (R, AL) staff, another 200 million legal immigrants over the next 20 years, or to mention the tidal wave of new illegal immigration (another 100 million?) this amnesty would bring about. He knew it would cost him the election, if he did. And so, he bided his time.

Well, George W. Bush still isn’t taking any chances, and so when he finally announced his amnesty plan, he did the equivalent of saying, ‘Read my lips: No new amnesty.’ (“What I have just described is not amnesty.”) He figures that if he lies enough about his planned amnesty, people won’t figure it out until it’s too late. “Too late” means after the coming fall elections. And to sweeten the pot for his social and religious conservative base (or as Karl Rove would call it, "the suckers"), he will propose a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.

This is all a word game. Bush is simply calling amnesty by other names: “temporary worker program,” “rational middle ground,” etc. He insists that he seeks amnesty, er, rational middle ground only for veteran criminals, but not for rookies.

“That middle ground recognizes that there are differences between an illegal immigrant who crossed the border recently and someone who has worked here for many years, and has a home, a family, and an otherwise clean record.”

And yet, as Bush well knows, under the Treason Plan (known variously as the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act and as S. 2611) he champions and the Senate passed, 62-36, on Thursday, we will end up with amnestied, naturalized, “temporary workers”; amnestied, naturalized, recently arrived illegals; and amnestied, naturalized, long-term illegals. But for treason and democide to prevail, the House must pass its own version. Thus, there is still hope for America.

That Burning Sensation

The man who for years portrayed himself as a straight talker, is peeing on our leg, and telling us that it’s raining.

I voted for George W. Bush in 2000, and again in 2004. As the saying goes, “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.”

I suppose President Bush can tell himself that his proposal isn’t really an illegal immigration “amnesty,” because along with immigration law and America’s borders, he is eliminating the very concept of American citizenship. No legal citizens, no illegal immigrants.

The President says he is sending 6,000 National Guardsmen to the Mexican border, but is sending them unarmed, and in fact, not stationing them on the border at all, but in offices, where they will do “paper work.”

But that’s just a stopgap. Mr. Bush’s plan is, by the end of 2008, for the 6,000 do-nothing National Guardsmen to be replaced by 6,000 new, do-nothing Border Patrol agents. That’s over $400 million of nothing per year, courtesy of the American taxpayer.

If Citizens Didn’t Exist, We’d Have to Invent Them

And yet, the ruling elites will still need something to distinguish themselves from the rest of those whose pockets they’re busy picking. And so, there will still be illegal immigration in-between serial amnesties that will occur every few years, because the elites will demand ever cheaper baby sitters, gardeners, cooks, cleaning ladies, dog walkers, car washers, etc. The elites’ll show how morally superior they are to us paupers who can’t afford illegal servants, by periodically demanding amnesty for their servants. This will also endear them to the servants. Then, as soon as the newest mass amnesty goes through, they’ll fire their newly legalized servants, and replace them for even less with new illegals. (‘I’m sorry, Maria, but I just can’t afford you anymore.’)

Soy Un Yahoo

Neocon godfatherette William Kristol has his own word for commoners: “Yahoos.”

Echoing the Liar-in-Chief, and apparently cognizant that consistency is one of the three laws of lying; Kristol denies that the Bush amnesty plan is, in fact, an amnesty plan. Unfortunately, however, like President Bush, Bill Kristol seems unaware of the first law of lying: Plausibility.

At this rate, George W. Bush’s greatest political achievement will obtain in having rescued Bill Clinton from historical infamy. The Clintons’ reign of crime looks better with each passing day.

Taps?

On Memorial Day, in honoring our war dead from the Revolutionary War unto the War on Terror, we say “Lest we forget.” At Gettysburg, Abraham Lincoln exhorted, “that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain.”

In the new dispensation according to George W. Bush, however, those men did die in vain. Bush fully intends to surrender our patrimony.

If the House goes along with the Senate and the People permit it, this Memorial Day will prove to have been a time to grieve for America itself.

The new Bush plan is the ultimate in taxation without representation. It is revolutionary in its provocation and in its consequences. Perhaps we should stop calling the plan’s patron President Bush, and instead start calling him King George.

We the People survived a civil war, but can we survive George W. Bush?


29 posted on 05/30/2006 7:12:53 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: staytrue

You don't win the point by taking my reply out of context. Savage Beast had claimed that 'we' will take the RINOs out in the primaries, and I was saying that idea wouldn't work, because so few of them are up for re-election in 2006.

This is why it is critical that the House reject the Senate bill now, and why our efforts need to be concentrated on pressuring all House members to reject the Senate bill. No bill is better, much better, than the Senate bill.

But please tell us which Dimocrat Senators who are up for re-election in 2006 you have a plan to get rid of. Which ones are vulnerable?


30 posted on 05/30/2006 7:14:00 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: savedbygrace

What can we do?


31 posted on 05/30/2006 7:19:29 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America!)
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To: savedbygrace

Sorry about taking your reply out of context.

We can beat cantwell and stabenow. Stabenow is vulnerable as are all MI democrats because the auto industry has put the MI economy in the toilet. We can also take Sarbanes (retiring) seat in MD. We can take NJ with Kean over Menedez. We need to hold Santorum's seat in PA. These are the high priority elections, and not trying to sack dewine and mccain. Sacking dewine and mccain are counter productive at this point.


32 posted on 05/30/2006 7:23:55 AM PDT by staytrue (Moonbat conservatives-those who would rather have the democrats win.)
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To: staytrue

Immigration reform isn't the only issue where conservatives have split with Bush and the GOP`s pro-amnesty Senators. Bush and this GOP Congress have spent the taxpayers money like old fashioned liberals and expanded the federal bureaucracy like no one since LBJ. Throw into this mix a strong globalist mindset that includes continued liberal immigration policy and what you get is an administration and a Congress that is anything but conservative on domestic issues. America will be fortunate if HR4437 becomes the law of the land and not the Senate's version, S.2611.


33 posted on 05/30/2006 7:43:04 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders; enforce employer sanctions; stop welfare handouts to illegals)
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To: savedbygrace

We will remember who they are and patiently wait until they are up for re-election. The years go by fast and their time will come. Senator Coburn got in at the primary level with grassroots effort, albeit an open seat, defeating the party pick Republican.


34 posted on 05/30/2006 7:43:34 AM PDT by maxter
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To: Jameison; Savage Beast; savedbygrace; staytrue; stopem; NapkinUser
Interesting point: Let's consider what Demorats in the House and Senate have a sizable ignored/betrayed constituency of Pro-American/sovereignty independent/dem voters who will bolt to a pro-sovereignty Republican.

Fun playing the 'media slant' game isn't it? Not always so easy to clearly identify the particular slant in a piece, and then identify the actual opposite, which is often a fair approximation of good policy.( e.g.: media slant: 'Republicans in trouble over immigration'; Semi-opposite: republicansmajority shouldn't be in danger ; Actual opposite: Democrats in danger over sovereignty issue)

35 posted on 05/30/2006 7:44:58 AM PDT by ProCivitas (Qui bono? Quo warranto? ; Who benefits? By what right/authority ?)
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To: Grendel9

And it's going to stay number one until amnesty is defeated and they enforce the law. NOT pass laws to enforce the law, but actually DO IT.

Anyway, if you have someone that has rejected the President, McCain and Democrats on this issue by all means vote for them. Campaign for them, and protect them from those pressuring them to falter. As said above, though, give directly to the candidate. Otherwise they'll use your money to attack people that challenge the RINO's.

No RINO shall ever get my support again and this vote is key to determining who they are.


36 posted on 05/30/2006 7:59:19 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Deport the United States Senate)
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To: Savage Beast

Focus our efforts on the House to defeat the Senate bill. Then see where we stand.

But if the House folds and we end up with much of the Senate bill enacted, then I'll probably stay home in November. In Oklahoma, we don't have the option of voting 3rd party.


37 posted on 05/30/2006 8:32:55 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: maxter

Do you remember the names of all those who voted in favor of that retoactive tax increase back during Clinton's reign? How many got re-elected?


38 posted on 05/30/2006 8:34:27 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: ProCivitas
"Democrats in danger over sovereignty issue"

Very interesting point, PC, one that had escaped me. If the Republicans had enough sense to deserve the authority they now hold, they would exploit this to the fullest. On the other hand, if they had that much sense, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in and we wouldn't be furious with them.

39 posted on 05/30/2006 2:05:23 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America!)
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To: NapkinUser

40 posted on 05/30/2006 2:10:11 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters
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