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Shameful reactions to Haditha 'atrocity' (Whines Incessantly About Free Republic!)
Gulf News ^ | 5/29/06 | Linda S. Heard (grab your tissues)

Posted on 05/29/2006 4:46:05 PM PDT by Coop

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In the meantime, my column had been posted on a well-known right-wing American website, where it attracted 119 comments. Oddly, none of them displayed any hint of disquiet over the behaviour of the Marines under investigation. Rather, their outrage was reserved for John Murtha and yours truly.

One poster's reaction was to "nuke the Middle East" adding "thank you very much Dishonourable Rep. Jack Murtha". He was later to write "if you can't stand behind our troops, stand in front of them".

A few of his co-posters rushed to the website of Murtha's Republican challenger Diana Irey to donate campaign funds.

The fact that this murdering troop has the support of even those 119 posters is worrisome. Surely, nobody should defend the indefensible based on some false notion of patriotism.

Military personnel should act as ambassadors for their country and behave according to international rules of law and the Geneva Conventions that were drawn up as a result of atrocities committed during the Second World War. There should be a difference between real soldiers and ruthless thugs with public opinion the final arbiter.

If the public, as represented by the 119 posters on the Free Republic website, condones such behaviour or seeks to excuse it, then not only is its members giving their country's soldiers a license to kill arbitrarily, they are altering the fundamental psyche of their nation.

To quote a well-known rationalist intellectual Felix Adler "Love of country is like love of women - he loves her best who seeks to bestow on her the highest good."

The "Freepers" - as members of the Free Republic website have come to be known - may also like to contemplate the words of theologian Howard Thurman who said "During times of war, hatred becomes quite respectable, even though it has to masquerade often under the guise of patriotism."

In short, people who glorify soldiers who purposefully assassinate women and small children are as misguided as those who glorify the blowing up of crowded buses, trains and marketplaces.

Does the donning of a uniform render its wearer impervious to justice? The Nuremberg trials indicate not...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 12th; clintonistas; district; freerepublic; haditha; irey; murtha; murthawatch; pennsylvania; traitor; treason
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To: MissAmericanPie
Notice how she happens not to mention which side in WWII committed the atrocities. If it had been the Allies, you can bet your booties she’d be banging her spoon on her high chair and shrieking it at the top of her little lungs.

Kinda the way our home-grown presstitutes say ''Senator Reid'' and ''Congressman Jefferson,'' but ''Republican Congressman Tom DeLay'' and ''Republican Representative Randy Cunningham.''

No effin’ wonder she wants public opinion – that other ''thing of wax,'' this one in the hands of the fifth-column Fourth Estate – to be the final arbiter of, well, pretty much everything.

461 posted on 05/31/2006 3:59:41 PM PDT by Tenniel (Whenever a man casts a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct -- T. Jefferson)
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To: Coop
Ms. Heard,

Why do you and your ilk demand "one more look" at the evidence for people on death's row that have been found guilty time and time again? Now you wish to even dismiss charges against these Marines, much less a trial.

462 posted on 05/31/2006 5:45:35 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Viva la Migra!)
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To: Scotswife
If my memory serves me correctly she did (according to the translator) say they were American soldiers.

In one interview, she says that, yes. In another interview she says she didn't see who was shooting...just the barrels of their rifles.

463 posted on 05/31/2006 6:30:58 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Scotswife

Here are the links to 3 different versions of Safa Younis' story:

Safa Younis (also seen spelled as Yunis) Salim.

There was one survivor, Safa Younis Salim, 13, who in an interview said she lived by faking her death. "I pretended that I was dead when my brother's body fell on me and he was bleeding like a faucet," she said.
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,418464,00.html


Only 13-year-old Safa Younis lived -- saved, she said, by her mother's blood spilling onto her, making her look dead when she fell, limp, in a faint.
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060527/NEWS/605270390/1039


Twelve-year-old Safa says she survived by hiding under the bed.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13053200/


464 posted on 05/31/2006 6:31:52 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Scotswife

Sorry to ping you again, the information was too much to put into one post.

Check out this post and please view the video to see the younger girl Eman tell the reporter that she KNEW ahead of time that the IED was going to go off, so she covered her ears!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1641124/posts?page=227#223


465 posted on 05/31/2006 6:36:09 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Coop

I reposted the links at post #464 of this thread. :-)


466 posted on 05/31/2006 6:37:18 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Coop
Ms. Heard,
I'm a "decorated combat Marine." I think that EX-Marine Jack Murtha is a disgraceful piece of trash, as are you.

As are all others who send our warriors into danger and refuse to back them up.


467 posted on 05/31/2006 6:48:40 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: chemicalman
The scummy MSM just blames America for creating the terrorists. What about the presumption of innocence? I want this investigated completely, and if proved, the guilty should get maximum punishment. But to assume guilt at this stage is reprehensible.
Screw you, Ms. Heard (metaphorically speaking)
468 posted on 05/31/2006 6:50:50 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Coop

Dear Ms. Heard,

When I flushed the toilet a little while ago I thought I'd seen the last of your kind for tonight...... unfortunately you're back...... I'll just try flushing again.


469 posted on 05/31/2006 10:42:39 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: Coop

Coop, thanks for the welcome.

If "shrieking" means quoting news and asking questions, count me guilty.

By the way, did you note that Fox News host John Gibson said yesterday that he is "against massacres of covilians and cover-ups"?

Does Gibson also hate America and the Marines?


470 posted on 05/31/2006 10:45:25 PM PDT by TokyoTom (Does FOX also hate America and the Marines?)
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To: Coop
Military personnel Journalists should act as ambassadors for their country.
471 posted on 05/31/2006 10:48:53 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: Velveeta

If you view this as at a murder trial, it's possible for all these things to have taken place.


472 posted on 05/31/2006 10:52:29 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Coop

Coop, my other point was about damage control. When some bad (or that looks bad) happens, the Administration should be ready to deal with it publicly. Sitting back creates ground for your political opponents.

Did you miss this or simply disagree?


473 posted on 05/31/2006 11:01:02 PM PDT by TokyoTom (Damage control)
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To: trek
Linda Heard is a doctrinaire Marxist. Just ignore her.

No. The left is like The Devil in that it can't stand ridicule.

Mock her well.

474 posted on 05/31/2006 11:38:05 PM PDT by Chunga (Mock The Left)
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To: Coop
Military personnel should act as ambassadors for their country

Acting as ambasadors is not the purpose of the military! Trooprs are trained to fight in defense of our country! That kind of thinking is what will ruin the military. Leave the job of being ambassador to the State Department!
475 posted on 06/01/2006 2:56:15 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: TokyoTom
By the way, did you note that Fox News host John Gibson said yesterday that he is "against massacres of covilians and cover-ups"?

I'd be concerned if John weren't against massacres of civilians and cover-ups.

I'm against wife beating. So stop it.

476 posted on 06/01/2006 4:59:28 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: AlaninSA
I would suggest to Ms. Heard that many brave men and women have died for the right to be "innocent until proven guilty".

If she's an Alabama fan: War Eagle!

but, if she's an Auburn fan, God help us.
477 posted on 06/01/2006 5:08:11 AM PDT by Barney59 ("Time wounds all heels.")
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To: Coop

cannot the democrats give our troops the benefit of the doubt till the facts all come in...just like howard the duck dean said we must do for obl??


478 posted on 06/01/2006 6:25:56 AM PDT by sachem longrifle (proud member of the fond du lac band of the chippewa people)
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To: Coop
Military personnel should act as ambassadors for their country and behave according to international rules of law and the Geneva Conventions that were drawn up as a result of atrocities committed during the Second World War.

Not the brightest bulb in the drawer -- is she.

Dear Linda,
Sorry about your public school education, but even and 8th grader should know enough about the Geneva Conventions to know they weren't "drawn-up" as a result of anything in WW2.

Start with dictionaries and encyclopedias and work your way up.

P.S. Word of advice. Go ahead. When you need a soldier, ask for a diplomat.

479 posted on 06/01/2006 6:34:03 AM PDT by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: Coop
"Military personnel should act as ambassadors for their country and behave according to international rules of law and the Geneva Conventions"
according to the geneva convention, if you are a non uniformed combatant, or are housing a non uniformed combatant, said combatant and people or persons housing them are not offered geneva convention protections, and as such can be shot on sight.
480 posted on 06/01/2006 8:48:02 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Time to bring back tar and feathering.)
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