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Looking Back at Iraq
Naitonal Review Online ^ | May 26, 2006 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 05/29/2006 1:36:07 PM PDT by GodfearingTexan

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Great article. I like the way he deftly backhands all the democrats that have been calling the whole thing the worst foreign policy move in history.
1 posted on 05/29/2006 1:36:09 PM PDT by GodfearingTexan
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To: GodfearingTexan

God bless President Bush, Rummy and the Troops.


2 posted on 05/29/2006 1:40:28 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

.....God bless President Bush, Rummy and the Troops......

Amen


3 posted on 05/29/2006 1:47:27 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: GodfearingTexan

Thanks for posting this...even I needed a refresher course on all of the "good" that has been done in the last 5 years.


4 posted on 05/29/2006 1:49:01 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: GodfearingTexan
An article everyone should make sure they pass along to friends, co-workers and extended family.

The agenda driven MSM will not tell the whole story, they will not focus on the literally hundreds of success stories each week......The rest of us must.

5 posted on 05/29/2006 1:55:47 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: GodfearingTexan

In a nutshell, the DemocRATS and their toadies in the MSM are upset that President Bush ended a tyrannical regime in Iraq that was training terrorists to kill Americans. Their boy sat around on his thumbs and playing the saxophone for 8 years without doing anything.


6 posted on 05/29/2006 2:02:32 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Freedom or a baloney sandwich? A DemocRAT will ALWAYS choose the baloney sandwich.)
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To: Bahbah; Mo1; defconw; Peach; Just A Nobody; freema; Coop

Good article PING!


7 posted on 05/29/2006 2:08:48 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: GodfearingTexan
Whatever our righteous anger at Khomeinist Iran, it was wrong, well aside from the arms-for-hostages scandal, to provide even a modicum of aid to Saddam Hussein, the great butcher of his own, during the Iran-Iraq war.

What is Hansen talking about? During the 1980s, Iran had effectively declared war on us by having their proxies kill hundreds of Americans (including 240 Marines). As a result, it was entirely appropriate for us to provide Iraq with satellite reconnaisance intel showing where the Iranians were massing for an attack against the Iraqis. And since this was the only military aid we gave to Hussein during that period, it is somewhat astonishing to see Hansen argue that such aid was wrong.

8 posted on 05/29/2006 2:08:56 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: DevSix

I was gonna ping you to this, but ya beat me! :-) Have a safe and wonderful Memorial Day!


9 posted on 05/29/2006 2:29:26 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: jmc1969; Cap Huff

Fyi...


10 posted on 05/29/2006 2:48:57 PM PDT by Dog
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He sums it nicely as to why we are there ....and it isn't irrational optimism..

But what did 2,400 brave and now deceased Americans really sacrifice for in Iraq, along with thousands more who were wounded? And what were billions in treasure spent on? And what about the hundreds of collective years of service offered by our soldiers? What exactly did intrepid officers in the news like a Gen. Petreus, or Col. McMaster, or Lt. Col Kurilla fight for?

First, there is no longer a mass murderer atop one of the oil-richest states in the world. Imagine what Iraq would now look like with $70 a barrel oil, a $50 billion unchecked and ongoing Oil-for-Food U.N. scandal, the 15th year of no-fly zones, a punitative U.N. embargo on the Iraqi people—all perverted by Russian arms sales, European oil concessions, and frenzied Chinese efforts to get energy contracts from Saddam.

The Kurds would remain in perpetual danger. The Shiites would simply be harvested yearly, in quiet, by Saddam’s police state. The Marsh Arabs would by now have been forgotten in their toxic dust-blown desert. Perhaps Saddam would have upped his cash pay-outs for homicide bombers on the West Bank.

Muammar Khaddafi would be starting up his centrifuges and adding to his chemical weapons depots. Syria would still be in Lebanon. Washington would probably have ceased pressuring Egypt and the Gulf States to enact reform. Dr. Khan’s nuclear mail-order house would be in high gear. We would still be hearing of a “militant wing” of Hamas, rather than watching a democratically elected terrorist clique reveal its true creed to the world.

But just as importantly, what did these rare Americans not fight for? Oil, for one thing. The price skyrocketed after they went in. The secret deals with Russia and France ended. The U.N. petroleum perfidy stopped. The Iraqis, and the Iraqis alone—not Saddam, the French, the Russians, or the U.N.—now adjudicate how much of their natural resources they will sell, and to whom.

Our soldiers fought for the chance of a democracy.

11 posted on 05/29/2006 2:53:12 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Txsleuth

He sums it up so well.


12 posted on 05/29/2006 3:06:09 PM PDT by Bahbah (The Dream Act...the latest nightmare to be brought to you by the US Senate)
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To: vbmoneyspender

and if Iraq goes to Hell, I think arming all sides to exterminate eachother would be perfectly justified


13 posted on 05/29/2006 3:07:24 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Islam Schmislam blahblahblah, enough already!)
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To: Bahbah

Yes, he does.

BTW, did you hear Gen. McInerny on Fox today?

He said that Gen. Paul Vallely, that wrote the book with him had an aneurysm this weekend, and is in a hospital in Missouri somewhere..

I am praying for him...he and McInerny are good guys, IMHO>


14 posted on 05/29/2006 3:08:06 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Dog

The administation today sadly has almost zero public credibility on Iraq because facts on the ground don't meet up with expectations set up for them before and after the war.

It shouldn't be this way and I understand you and the administation were just trying to show things are going good and we are doing a good job and we are going to win.

We are going to stabilize Iraq, but it is going to be long and very bloodly. Stabilizing Iraq will help the entire world and will usher in a new era in the Middle East. I am 100% sure that certain people in the White House wish to God not that they could go back and have stopped the invasion of Iraq, but that they could go back and change their PR strategy back in 2003.


15 posted on 05/29/2006 3:12:45 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: Siena Dreaming

I'll second that!!


16 posted on 05/29/2006 3:12:50 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-by Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: jmc1969

I think that certain people wish they had not tried to split the difference between the policy of the Department of Defence and that of the Department of State and the CIA.


17 posted on 05/29/2006 3:16:15 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS

I understand there were mistakes on the ground the biggest I consider the CPA and Bremer, but I still think the bigger mistake was setting up the public to think that such a massive change could be done quickly and cheaply.


18 posted on 05/29/2006 3:19:55 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: Txsleuth
Gen. Paul Vallely, that wrote the book with him had an aneurysm this weekend, and is in a hospital in Missouri somewhere..

Except for an occasional glance at FR, I've had a news free day. You're right, those two are good guys. I hope Vallely is alright. I wonder where in Missouri he is.

19 posted on 05/29/2006 3:21:37 PM PDT by Bahbah (The Dream Act...the latest nightmare to be brought to you by the US Senate)
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To: Bahbah

McInerny said where it was, but I forget....since you are having a "news free day"...I will watch, and see if it is reported again.

I only saw it mentioned that one time...none of the news people have said anything.

It seems the terrorists in Iraq have decided to celebrate OUR Memorial Day, by contributing as many dead people as they can....grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Carry on with your news free day....and have fun!


20 posted on 05/29/2006 3:27:03 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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