[wagglebee]

Disgusting.

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Irish Supreme Court Strikes Down Age of Sexual Consent Law

Now the left will look for a way to do away with statuatory rape laws altogether.

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[Unam Sanctam]

The courts are out of control everywhere, it seems.

[BW2221]

These judges are wacky enough to be on the 9th Circuit.

[MineralMan]

Ping for you.

I think I read that Aer Lingus is having a sale on airfares to Ireland this week.

[wagglebee]

Ping.

[Brilliant]

These guys seem determined to show us that an independent judiciary is simply something that doesn't work.

[CrawDaddyCA]

The ruling resulted from a recent case of a man charged with four counts of statutory rape for having sex with a 14-year-old girl. He was 18 at the time; the girl told him she was 16.

Ridiculous. If she lied about her age (and lets face it, some 12 year old girls look 18), and admitted it in court, how can he be charged?

[AliVeritas]

St. Patrick pray for them.

[Irish_Thatcherite]

It's a terrible thing that convicted offenders are taking advantage of the Irish Supreme Court ruling - but, to be fair, it was bad law considering cases where a teenaged girl lied about her age to an older man - and it couldn't be used as defence in court.

I hope the Irish government bring in a better worded law - except 'Irish government' and 'well-worded law' are mutually exclusive notions...

[68skylark]

The ruling resulted from a recent case of a man charged with four counts of statutory rape for having sex with a 14-year-old girl. He was 18 at the time; the girl told him she was 16.

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but the 18-year old male may be entitled to some understanding. I'm not sure he really should be branded a rapists and sex offender for the rest of his life (not to mention serve a long jail term), if this girl really made a plausible claim that she was 15 or 16.

I've got far less sympathy for older males who make the same claim.

[TheWasteLand]

There's something rotten in Ireland.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

RTÉ news reported Friday on a 38-year old man convicted of the unlawful carnal knowledge of a 12-year-old girl, two years ago, who was expected to challenge his conviction in court this week.

An eighteen year old with a fourteen year old who may or may not have lied about her age is one thing.

This is quite another.

[FerdieMurphy]

Next they'll allow raping of two year old babies.

Ireland is down the sewer.

[Raycpa]

Shouldn't the burden be on the older person to obtain proof of age? Heck, a store that sells tobacco or booze to a minor that lied about their age is still guilty.

Out of wedlock sex should require a higher standard than this.

The gays have a desire to remove all age barriers, this ruling is one of the cases to that end.

[em2vn]

A posting about this a few days ago gave a little better take on the matter. Under the law that was struck down, a defense wasn't allowed if the accused acknowled that the act took place.
In the case that challenged the law the former posting indicated the boy was seventeen and the girl was fifteen though she told him she was sixteen. In that case I think the court's ruling was a good one. If she had been sixteen there wouldn't have been a crime.

[Oratam]

The Randall P. McMurphy defense.

[stylin19a]

... the court did state that "the protection of young girls from engaging in consensual sex is a legitimate end to be pursued by appropriate means,"...

no protection of young boys is needed ?

[Chickensoup]

Why? We live in a culture that teaches pre teen kids how to have "safe sex." This is the culture that we accept and this is the culture we created.

It is perverse, but it makes sense.

[longtermmemmory]

ruth ginsberg will refer to this because it is in keeping with her personal beliefs.

[newzjunkey]

This law applied to a case with a circumstance which it should have considered and perhaps made an allowance regarding. Unfortunately the court has opened the door for cases which should be criminal under the law such as the 38 yr old and the 12 yr old.

Seems he clearly wanted to know if she was legal age, she lied and apparently admitted it in court.