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1 posted on 05/29/2006 3:19:36 AM PDT by indyreb
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Thank G-d these religious nutjobs aren't in charge of this nation's defense.

But how influential they would have been under an Algore or sKerry administration!


2 posted on 05/29/2006 3:28:49 AM PDT by elcid1970
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Elitist Leftists already preach that 'war is wrong, 'not the answer', and this fits with a belief that people can't be trusted to think for themselves. Some things should be sacrificed or 'given up for the common good', and individual freedom is the first thing that goes. (It leads to war.) The nanny state or better yet, the UN -- with Bill in charge -- should tell us all what to do and when to do it.


3 posted on 05/29/2006 3:33:36 AM PDT by hershey
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The Christian individual acts are different then the acts of a Christian nation. Read and study the Bible for yourself. Don't let someone else define it for you.
4 posted on 05/29/2006 3:34:12 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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It seems to me that these whackos have drifted far from their respective organizations' roots. Jesus was never against self-defense.


5 posted on 05/29/2006 3:34:27 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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There are people out there that want to destroy my country, my family and me. I am not about to turn the other cheek or bare my throat for a terrorists knife. If they do kill me I intend to go down fighting and taking a bunch of the SOBs with me.


6 posted on 05/29/2006 3:40:56 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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Was Bush's response to Sept. 11 attacks un-Christian?
No.
Must Christians oppose the Iraq war?
No.
Warfare in general?
No.
Winkler, who wants the U.S. defense budget slashed by 80 percent, could be considered a semipacifist.
Winkler, you're an idiot. Thanks for coming out.
9 posted on 05/29/2006 3:42:18 AM PDT by TheWasteLand
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those are the "Gay" Christians right?


10 posted on 05/29/2006 3:42:24 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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The very people who tried to stop the impeachment of the sink emperor and who claimed impeachment was actually a political coup are the ones who wish to impeach President bush. Not because of anything he has done , but because of payback for the impeachment of their Prince of Masturbation and Cigar penetration.

Like Mentally handicapped people everywhere I try not to openly recognise the fact that they are "different" because of a wish not to embarrass them, but they have become a danger to the security of our nation and give aid and comfort to the enemies of our great country. Their sickness has reachd a point where they need slapping down,but we have no one with the courage to stand up to them. Even the President has refused to stand up for himself. We have two very dangerous situations facing us Immigration ,and the war on terror. It appears we will certainly lose the one ,and if the Liberals have their way we will lose both.


12 posted on 05/29/2006 3:46:24 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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I wonder if this is the Left's new stab at creating the religious alternative to conservatives.

There was a Quaker "missionary" in Iraq a few months back that was taken hostage by the terrorists. They surely would have killed him like many other charity workers but for a raid by American troops acting on a tip. The spokesman for his organization talked of his "release" by his captors, never once acknowledging the good use of force to free the knucklehead. Certainly never thanking our troops for saving the man's life.

14 posted on 05/29/2006 3:51:44 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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It's that simple.
Really.

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16 posted on 05/29/2006 3:56:23 AM PDT by Cindy
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Winkler's complaint: "The attack on Iraq was sold to our people on lies, and the war itself was an illegal war of aggression" that included things such as "unconstitutional" National Security Agency surveillance."There was nothing Christian in (Bush's) response to Sept. 11," Winkler asserted. "The war on terror is a war of terror. We have to stop it."

Winkler if you're surfing around here let me tell you that some in our Methodist congregation are already concerned about liberals and socialists trying to force their views on other members of the congregation. If the Church wants to maintain the steady flow of tax free income that you depend on for a living and plead for weekly, please stay out of politics.

Many of the families I know believe in protecting themselves when attacked and we don't want a gay pastor preaching the word of God to us either.

18 posted on 05/29/2006 4:10:02 AM PDT by alrea
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Frankly I wish Dubya would be a bit more Old Testament, Eye fo an Eye, Tooth for a Tooth.

In fact in order to protect our way of life I'd say a response of 1000 to 1 is order.

20 posted on 05/29/2006 4:18:20 AM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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Here is one thing that Jesus said about the use of violence

John 18:35"Am I a Jew?" Pilate replied. "It was your people and your chief priests who handed you over to me. What is it you have done?"

36Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place."

I note that in the above circumstance, Jesus did not limit the potential use of violence. These religious leaders would have been appalled if Bush used the saving of one innocent Iraqi as a pretext of war.

However, if they keep reading about what Jesus said they might not like what he would say about their call for impeachment

Matthew 12:25Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?

23 posted on 05/29/2006 4:19:42 AM PDT by Raycpa
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"Progressives" A cloak word leftist defeatists love to call themselves.

Meanwhile, the Methodist Church continues to lose members while the Baptist Church continues to gain.

No mention of cutting off the heads of innocents, killing civilians, butchering children and women. No mention of the value of freedom, the cost of freedom and the eternal war against evil.

Once again the big media makes me want to vomit.


24 posted on 05/29/2006 4:26:16 AM PDT by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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These journalists really need to research their subject before they write stupid columns. Here's God's opinion on just and honorable civil authority:

Romans 13:1 ¶Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Now, some people will say "what about communist governments? or the Nazis? or Kim Jong Il? Did God ordain them?" OF course not. Satan has been usurping true authority for centuries and millenia. It's the church's job to TAKE IT BACK.

26 posted on 05/29/2006 4:36:13 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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I am constantly amazed by the fact that as I sit in my Methodist Church pew, that the Jim Winklers of this world are never found in my Methodist congregation. Where do these people come from and how do they get where they are? What is it about a religious bureaucracy that attracts the Jim Winklers and what does it say about a church leadership that these people are appointed as spokesmen? More HERE
27 posted on 05/29/2006 4:37:37 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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A better question is "Is the AssociatePress an American enemy?"

Who has done the greater harm Al Queda or the AP?


28 posted on 05/29/2006 4:39:24 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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Suicide is a tremendous sin. Apparently these leftists have forgotten that.

Regards, Ivan

31 posted on 05/29/2006 4:43:00 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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I'm beyond tired of hearing liars accuse Bush of having lied about reasons to invade Iraq.


32 posted on 05/29/2006 4:44:37 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (No More White House Dynasties! Two Adamses and two Bushes are enough. No more Clintons or Bushes!)
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"The attack on Iraq was sold to our people on lies, and the war itself was an illegal war of aggression" that included things such as "unconstitutional" National Security Agency surveillance."There was nothing Christian in (Bush's) response to Sept. 11," Winkler asserted. "The war on terror is a war of terror.
You claim that Mr. Bush was wrong, but you may be mistaken. It would be uncharitable, even arrogant, of me to assert that you lied if I believe your opinion to be incorrect. But then, that seems to be exactly how you treat Mr. Bush.

33 posted on 05/29/2006 4:45:07 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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