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Man who bragged of murdering Iraqis debunked by Army
Stars and Stripes ^ | May 28, 2006 | Jeff Schogol

Posted on 05/27/2006 11:44:38 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Debunking the claims of a minor Internet celebrity, the Army said it has no record of a man who claimed he committed atrocities with Army Rangers in Iraq.

In an interview posted on the Web site SocialistAlternative.org, Jesse MacBeth claimed that his job was to “strike fear in the hearts of the Iraqi people” while serving with the 3rd Ranger Battalion.

“We would go into people’s houses and plow down entire families,” MacBeth said. “We would interrogate people. If we didn’t like the answers that they gave, then we would kill the youngest child. If they gave more answers that we didn’t like, then we’d move on to the rest of the family. They could’ve been innocent people.”

MacBeth also claimed U.S. troops would “slaughter” Iraqis in mosques.

But U.S. Army Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg found no evidence of a soldier named Jesse MacBeth ever serving with Army Rangers or Special Forces, said Army spokesman Paul Boyce.

Boyce also noted several red flags about MacBeth’s appearance.

“There are also numerous wear and appearance issues with the soldier’s uniform — a mix of foreign uniforms with the sleeves rolled up like a Marine and a badly floppy tan beret worn like a pastry chef,” Boyce said.

In one picture of MacBeth posted online, he is wearing his beret with the insignia centered over the wrong eye.

In a telephone interview Thursday, MacBeth said he purposely wore his uniform backward in a video interview in which he made his allegations because veterans are prohibited from wearing their uniforms at protests.

Asked why the Army found no record of him, MacBeth said, “They did the same thing to John Kerry.”

But the group Iraq Veterans Against the War, to which MacBeth belonged, said it too was skeptical of MacBeth.

In a statement on its Web site, the group said MacBeth’s claims of service “have not been verified” and the group is conducting an investigation of the matter.

Group member Garett Reppenhagen called MacBeth a “troubled kid.”

“I’m not sure why he would want to be fraudulent to IVAW,” Reppenhagen said in a telephone interview Thursday.

Reppenhagen said the group would take steps in the future to verify its members’ service, but he could not say what those measures might be.

Vietnam veteran Doug Sterner is an advocate for a proposed law that would make it a felony to make false claims of decorations earned. MacBeth claimed he had earned a Bronze Star.

Sterner said he believes MacBeth is more interested in “self-gratification” than getting a political message across.

“If he was honestly a war protester, he would do it honestly, so his opposition to the war is as transparent as his military service is bogus,” Sterner said.

But MacBeth insisted he served in Iraq with the Rangers and claimed Iraq Veterans Against the War had betrayed him.

“When the heat gets on them they stab me in the back,” he said.

Still, MacBeth said he would not defend his credibility any further.

“I’m not going to follow this battle no more. The right wing won,” he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; dumbass; fakeranger; hoax; iraq; jesseisahomo; jessemacbeth; military
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To: West Coast Conservative

The Iraq Veterans Against the War blame Bush.
http://www.ivaw.net/index.php?id=219

Anyone got a line on Michael Hoffman from the IVAW?

I heard him give a talk (I forced my self to make it to the end) on free speech TV He sure didn’t sound like or carry himself like a Jarhead.
And when he says lines like:

a few of my buddies and I would get together with a case of beer and talk politics.

I just don’t see it.


41 posted on 05/27/2006 2:03:46 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: quietolong
You got to understand ,their just snot based pig crap,like all the ones that showed up to here!here! Kerry only to find out they were a bunch of phony bastards like Kerry. Some of them turned out to be undesirably discharged.
42 posted on 05/27/2006 2:10:20 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: lonedawg

I was in long enough to spot a Foxtrot Uniform when I see one.


43 posted on 05/27/2006 2:14:50 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: West Coast Conservative

This is precisely what the military should have done with the liars in Liar-in-Chieft John F'ing Kerry's Winter Soldier farce.


44 posted on 05/27/2006 2:23:12 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: West Coast Conservative

But U.S. Army Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg found no evidence of a soldier named Jesse MacBeth ever serving with Army Rangers or Special Forces, said Army spokesman Paul Boyce.

Well of course they'd say that! It's all part of "THE PLOT."


45 posted on 05/27/2006 3:18:00 PM PDT by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: West Coast Conservative; bnelson44

Here is an earlier thread on our hero:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1637045/posts


46 posted on 05/27/2006 3:27:24 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Jet Jaguar

Ordinarily I'd say this kid needs a beat-down for what he's done. But really, he seems to have all the troubles he can handle already -- this whole episode is pathetic. Living his life is punishment enough.


47 posted on 05/27/2006 3:32:43 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark
He is pretty sad. But, he had the leftist, anti-military goons frothing.

They should kick his ass.
48 posted on 05/27/2006 3:38:00 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pacifists always lose, because the anti-pacifists kill them.)
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To: americanstrategist

Personally, I think the Army should just have him arrested and placed on trial for First Degree Murder for each and every claim of murder he made.

Why debunk a liar? Let him debunk himself or face the possibility of the Death Penalty or 600 years at hard labor.

The media is trying the Marines over the investigation into the 24 deaths in Iraq, so why not actually try this nutcase?


49 posted on 05/27/2006 3:42:50 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: lonedawg

50 posted on 05/27/2006 3:47:30 PM PDT by I got the rope
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Jesse carrying the banner for Iraq Veterans Against the War:


51 posted on 05/27/2006 10:19:09 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: lonedawg

They don't represent us vets, as far as I'm concerned.


52 posted on 05/28/2006 9:36:54 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: 68skylark

That's why we need this bill. In the House is HR 3352 with 100 co-sponsors. In the Senate is S 1998 with 22 co-sponsors. For more information on the bill see http://wwwhomeofheroes.com/herobill
Doug Sterner


53 posted on 05/30/2006 7:35:10 PM PDT by heritageman
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To: heritageman
That's why we need this bill. In the House is HR 3352 with 100 co-sponsors. In the Senate is S 1998 with 22 co-sponsors.

Seems like a good idea to me.

54 posted on 05/30/2006 7:42:30 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: West Coast Conservative

He has just, on his own volition, implicated himself in the commission of a felony[to Wit: Murder}. He should be arrested and indicted. See if he still sticks to his story.


55 posted on 05/30/2006 7:45:03 PM PDT by sport
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