Posted on 05/26/2006 2:31:43 PM PDT by VU4G10
WASHINGTON - The White House on Friday said a Senate bill that would grant legal status to illegal immigrants is analogous to a traffic law that allows a speeder to pay a fine and continue driving.
"If you had a traffic ticket and you paid it, you're not forever a speeder, are you?" White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said in response to questions from The Examiner.
"So the fact is, you have paid your debt to society," he added. "And we have come up with a way to make sure that the debt to society gets paid. Then you move forward."
The "traffic ticket" analogy raised eyebrows on Capitol Hill, where many House Republicans regard illegal immigration as a grave crime.
"I don't know if Tony meant to trivialize it or not," said Will Adams, spokesman for Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. "But it's certainly misleading."
"The penalty for a speeding ticket is a fine," he added. "The penalty for being here illegally is being removed from this country. But the president doesn't want illegal aliens to go home."
Snow emphasized that illegals would have to pay fines, learn English and wait years for a chance at full citizenship. But Adams called that "a slap on the hand" compared to deportation.
"Here's a more apt analogy," he said. "You get stopped for speeding, and you say to the cop: "Hey listen, you're about to give me a $300 ticket. How about we make it 20 bucks and just call it even?"
Snow predicted that House Republicans would eventually drop their opposition to the Senate bill, which passed Thursday. The bill, which includes a guest worker program that would grant legal status to aliens, is headed to a conference committee for possible reconciliation with a House bill aimed at beefing up border security.
Snow suggested the guest worker program could be sold to even ardent opponents like Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.
"Chairman Sensenbrenner, who's got some real problems with various aspects, has said publicly that the temporary worker program has merit," Snow said.
"There are areas in which members of the House are going to agree with the president," he added. "I certainly don't want to be speaking for Chairman Sensenbrenner, but the fact is, you know politics."
But Sensenbrenner appeared unmoved.
"What's going on now, in calling it a pathway to citizenship or earned legalization, is not honest because it is amnesty," he said at a news conference.
"As press secretary, Tony Snow is simply a "stooge" for the President."
All the Tony Show worshippers should put down the pipe and realize that he doesn't make WH policy. He simly parrots the party line.
More outrageous comments will continue to flow from Snow's mouth as amnesty is crammed down our throats from this administration.
Remember WHAT POSTS?
I post dozens of messages on FR each week.
What are you talking about?
Jorge, seriously dude. Get a grip.
We started this tit for tat when you were offended that I used an example of murderers not being murderers any longer once they were pardoned.
When you objected, I linked you to a long list of articles about illegal alien murders in our nation. The point was completely lost on you. You couldn't make the connection.
Then you offered to debate with me if only I'd make a point. At this point I suggested that if you wanted to make an offer, you'd have to have something to sell. You don't.
Now you're asking if I'm okay.
Seriously bud, are you okay?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1638992/posts?page=261#261
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1638992/posts?page=275#275
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1638992/posts?page=299#299
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1638992/posts?page=313#313
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1638992/posts?page=315#315
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1638992/posts?page=317#317
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1638992/posts?page=322#322
Ok. I think it's a stupid comparison. Big deal.
You know my position on this.
When you objected, I linked you to a long list of articles about illegal alien murders in our nation. The point was completely lost on you. You couldn't make the connection.
"Long list" is right. I didn't click on your freakin link dude.
I TOLD YOU that I don't take reading assignments, but will gladly respond to any point you can fit into your post.
Do you think I have all day to chase down your links and do your homework for you?
Then you offered to debate with me if only I'd make a point. At this point I suggested that if you wanted to make an offer, you'd have to have something to sell. You don't.
This is where you lose me.
Who ever said anything about "making an offer" or having "something to sell"?
What on earth are you talking about.
Do you know how strange you sound?
Now you're asking if I'm okay. Seriously bud, are you okay?
No, not anymore... you're weirding me out dude.
Especially knowing that I said I don't click on links to stupid reading assignments.
Why are you wasting your time?
" The Bush family didn't heed your words about Clinton. They seem to enjoy his company, and vise versa. You can't deny that."
Last Saturday , Doro Bush Koch was on C-SPAN 's Booknotes. She has just written a book about her father , " My Father, My President..."
When asked about the Bush family's relationship with Bill Clinton- she gushed " We love him. We call him our brother from another mother. He spends weekends with us in Maine.."
I will forever be mystified as to how the Bush's can routinely invite Bill Clinton into their home and family.
BTW- Does the Bush family ever receive reciprocal invitations from the Clintons ?
Setting asides all the harm he did to the country and the military during his tenure, Bill Clinton routinely trashes President Bush and his policies in speeches here and abroad and yet, the Bush family still welcomes him with open arms and treats him with all kinds of reverence and hospitality.
It's mind boggling.
Those links take your comment and follow an exchange of posts related to it. You said you couldn't remember making the comment.
If you don't want to read it, that's okay with me. It only took a few minutes to recreate the exchange for you. You were the one who couldn't remember it.
Perhaps you're right. Why am I wasting my time on you? You can't remember what you post. You don't want to be reminded. You can't click on a link that shows how valid someone else's comments are. Then you say you're willing to debate an issue. Oui vey.
Later.
I'm glad to see you are so dedicated to memorizing and archiving my past posts.
Even though it is kinda weird.
I'm still trying to figure out what any of this has to do with what we are talking about NOW. What is your point?
I could care less if you respond to anything I post.
But if you do, at least attempt to make sense.
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It's amnesty and if it passes America will pass too.
"That's the best thing you ever posted!"
That's hysterically funny!
Tony is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations - that bunch WANTS open borders.
LOL! Ok. Wow! Your logic got me. So your illegal crosses the border then sits down on the sidewalk in order to not break anymore laws.
Shall we list the laws that continue to be broken at that point? I know for you illegal apologists it doesn't really matter but it is fun to point it out.
As I've pointed out several times, there are illegal aliens here who have, in fact, not violated any other law besides crossing the border or overstaying their visa - it is the equivalent to a federal speeding ticket - what do we do with them?
Hopefully not here at FR.
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