Senate set for immigration vote today - Update: Bill Passed 62-36

AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/25/06 | David Espo - ap

[steveegg]

So, would Bush actually break out a veto pen to dump the rest of the crap that was loaded in, or would he realize that the rest of the crap would simply be passed by the middle of 2009 thanks to the effects of what he said he wanted?

[Maynerd]

I'm encouraged with the 56-41 margin of defeat. 35 repubs are sane and only 20 are complete morons. The margin is considerably closer than predicted by many pundits. Despite this result, I think the momentum is slowly shifting to the conservative perspective. I am optimistic the House will hang tough and carve out the amnesty benefit giveaway and hopefully up the amount of fencing.

[tabsternager]

No. It now goes to a joint conference committee with the House.

[Mo1]

Bush isn't going to say or do anything till we see what comes out of Conference

[Alter Kaker]

I think I made a mistake, that the 56-41 vote is the final amendment that required the US to consult with Mexico for approval on border security. Can't get the text.

[Dog]

Someone please find the Dodd amendment that was added to the bill at the last minute...

[Mo1]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1638355/posts?page=30#30

[Dog]

Alter is that the Dodd add on?

[tabsternager]

I'll take your word for that as far as the Senate. But the House conferees aren't appointed yet.

[pollywog]

sad but true!!!!!

[stopem]

Wonder how to get this list on a dart board......

[Mo1]

It was part of the Managers Package .. a bunch of amendments from both sides put together for one vote

Senator Kyle caught it

[deport]

Dog, I think it was the Specter amendment, but doesn't have any data other than the vote total listed at this time.

They have updated the web site to show that the final bill passed under vote #157 but don't have the data posted as of yet.

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/a_three_sections_with_teasers/votes.htm

[proudCArepublican]

even senator byrd voted against it

[pollywog]

Thank God the HOUSE isn't run by liberals.

This won't go to the HOUSE , I understand!!

[Wallace T.]

If the House passes this bill, it may be time to resign ourselves to a long term Democratic majority in both Houses of Congress, as we basically had from 1930 until 1980. Most of the illegals will go through the process of becoming citizens and will vote Democrat in large majorities. By the early 2010s, Nevada, Arizona, and Colorado will tip to a solid Democratic majority, and perhaps Texas, Oklahoma, and Florida later in the decade. The remaining conservative outposts in California, San Diego and Orange Counties and the Central Valley, will be eliminated. Continued immigration, legal and illegal, will ensure increasing Democratic majorities in both Congress and the state legislatures. Only RINO type Republicans like Arnold Schwarzenegger of Rudolph Giuliani will stand a chance of being elected President.

The economic results will be the elimination of the Bush era tax cuts, higher taxes on the middle and upper classes, implementation of the Kyoto restrictions on energy production and consumption, a return to 1970s inflation, even the 55 m.p.h. national speed limit. In foreign policy, our military power will be curtailed and American economic and strategic interests will be placed essentially into the hands of the United Nations, NATO, and any "son of NAFTA" transnational organization that may arise in the Western Hemisphere. As for social issues, any areas where Congress would be reluctant to offend culturally conservative Hispanics, such as abortion and homosexual marriage, will be addressed by the judicial selections made by a liberal Congress and President.

Unless the House stands firm in this matter and insists on closing the border first, the political alignment in America will shift to the probably permanent disadvantage of conservatism. BTW, the "fairness doctrine" will be revived, and talk radio as we know it will be dead. We will be back to the days of 20-25 years ago when someone like George Will or Robert Novak was the lone conservative who was usually shouted down by the liberals.

I wish I could be more optimistic, but the demographics of amnesty are evident and are clearly favorable to liberalism and the Democrats. This gloomy outcome is, however, good news to Democrats, RINOs, and the pseudo-conservatism defenders of amnesty and open borders on this site.

[dan the bruiser]

Great idea. After we annex Mexico we can offer jobs to the guest workers to go down and start buiding some golf courses

[demlosers]

that the 56-41 vote is the final amendment that required the US to consult with Mexico for approval on border security.

You've got to be sh*#% me? Nuts!

[NormsRevenge]

They had control for decades...and nothing this bad ever came out. So...not false but...

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The New Deal, The Great Society, Medicare,
Abortion, Welfare, need I go on,, , all the while coddling with commies,, all in the last 75 years alone ,, the liebrals have little to crow about accomplishments-wise, imo. The left's hands are far from clean.

Would you say different?

[Dog]

Thanks deport...I'm a tad pissed right now...so bear with me.