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Canon to stop making single-lens camera
AP (via Yahoo) ^ | 25 May 06

Posted on 05/25/2006 10:08:01 AM PDT by Drew68

Canon to stop making single-lens camera

TOKYO - Japan's top camera maker, Canon Inc., will stop developing new single-lens reflex film cameras as more people abandon film for digital, company officials said Thursday.

The Tokyo-based Canon's move followed a similar move by its closest Japanese rival, Nikon Corp., which announced earlier this year it would stop making seven of its nine film cameras and concentrate on digital models.

Canon will continue making film cameras already on the market as long as their demand remains. Whether to withdraw from the film camera business will be "decided appropriately by judging the market situation," said Canon spokesman Hiroshi Yoshinaga.

Japanese camera makers sold a combined total 64.77 million digital cameras last year globally, compared with 5.38 million film cameras, according to industry figures. Yoshinaga said his company could not disclose the number of cameras sold.

Meanwhile, Tsuneji Uchida, president of Canon, told reporters that demand for film cameras will be limited to "special needs" like camera buffs, Kyodo News agency said.

In January, Konica Minolta Holdings Inc., another Japanese optical manufacturer, said it was quitting the camera business altogether — digital and film — and selling its digital assets to rival Sony Corp.


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KEYWORDS: 35mmcameras; cameras; canon; digitalcameras; kodak; photography
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To: MarkL

I bought a Nikon F2 in 1973. It has been run hard and put up wet ever since. I used it personally and professionally and it is currently in semi-retirement. I now have a Canon A200 (a little 2.0 MP jewel) and a Sony CD400 (4.0 MP). I love digital! No chemicals, no working in the dark and instant results. There will always be die-hards and uses for film shots. I imagine buggy whips are still being made and their market still exist...somewhere.


61 posted on 05/25/2006 12:39:19 PM PDT by hdstmf
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To: hdstmf
As a amateur and then professional photographer I found Polariod process to be a very unstable product. Their many consumer camera models still clutter thrift shops. I respect your father's service and concerns for the company. It's too bad Polaroid never quite made it.

First of all,with the exception of several "niche" products that they made,Polaroid never thought of its products as "professional quality".Their market was the guy shooting his kids in the back yard,kinda like many of Kodak's most popular products of that era.

During the 50's,60's and 70's (my father's tenure),what they did,they did well.The technology was cutting edge,particularly the chemical engineering side of it. It's not a coincidence that their headquarters was within walking distance of both Harvard and MIT.My Dad had many,many MIT grads working for him in their hay day.

Read up on the history of the company,particularly its history during my Dad's tenure.Read up on their R&D department *and* their marketing department.

Polaroid never cured cancer.They never even made a truly professional grade camera or film.But it was a damn fine company that made products that many folks wanted over a four-plus decade period of time.

62 posted on 05/25/2006 12:53:33 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I have two of these Pentax ME cameras. Both now retired. I am learning the Canon 20D system, slowly.


63 posted on 05/25/2006 1:03:06 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Blueflag

I sold my Canon A-1 with Vivitar flash, wide angle and telephoto lenses and bag at a garage sale last summer for $50.

I am so done with film, and photography for that matter. I used to be the guy that took pictures of everything. I don't bother any more. I found that worrying about what would make a good picture, etc. was taking away from my BRAINS ability to soak in and store events.

We bought a Toshiba 3.2 megapixel a couple of years ago and really never use it. We don't even take a camera on trips any more. And if we want pictures of the grandkids, well, their parents keep us in constant supply.


64 posted on 05/25/2006 1:07:40 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Drew68
Mine will shoot photos in .tif format but I've never once shot a photo with that much resolution. For obvious reasons, I use lower resoultion so that I can send my photos via email.

Drew, question for ya. We have some wedding picture prints that we scanned on a HP 2100. For some reason, and with no human intervention, the scanner scanned and saved one picture as a JPG, and the other as a TIFF. Uh, why is that?

65 posted on 05/25/2006 1:14:14 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: Drew68
It is outdated by know but it still takes photos that print out just as perfect (to my eyes) as a film camera --and I even use the low resolution settings.

I just replaced my old 3 Mp digital with an 8Mp and I still own teo Nikon F models, which have been used once in the last four yesrs.

Since 1998, when I got my first digital camera, I know I have saved at least $9000 in film and processing costs... A net savings of roughly $8k

66 posted on 05/25/2006 1:25:14 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: js1138
The crystal ball is cloudy five years from now. But film will disappear from consumer channels.

Probably true, but out of sheer necessity and volume, film scanners will continue to improve and sell for much longer than that.
10,000 negs and slides for me alone. Many decades of family and trips worldwide.
Don't plan to visit Pago Pago and the remote end of Ibiza island again any time soon...

67 posted on 05/25/2006 1:30:32 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Brad Cloven

I gave away my 25 year old Canon AE1 to my photographer daughter. She loves it. It looks very much like your posted picture. I have a two year old Olympus digital camera that is just fine for my purposes. Less weight, less bulk, I can carry it in my purse everyday. Hard to do that with the old Canon AE1. Things sure have changed.


68 posted on 05/25/2006 1:33:19 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Buy Danish!)
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To: tortoise

I am getting better images from a 5 mp Nikon than I got from film, and I did my own processing for years. I even did color prints at home.

However, I have some Kodachromes taken in the 60s that I recently scanned at 27k dpi, 48 bit. They make grainless 24x36 inch files and 25 meg psd files in photoshop. To get this in digital you need a large format camera and about 22 megapixels.

I give consumer SLR cameras about three years to reach this level. Five, tops.


69 posted on 05/25/2006 1:33:55 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Drew68
Still works sweetly for me after over 30 years, especially when fed with Ilford FP4 or Agfachrome.

I have a little Fuji digital for fooling around but the only thing that could tempt me into digital full time would be a digicam with an ultra wide (17-20mm) zoom.

No digis I am aware of get wider than 32mm or so unless you want to inve$t in a whole new Nikon or Canon system.

70 posted on 05/25/2006 1:43:13 PM PDT by Uncle Fud
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To: Gay State Conservative

The kind of photography people in my generation think of when you say Polaroid (the instant developing picture) was a landmark achievement that truly enabled the everyman photographer. One of the best parts of digital photography for the everyman (being able to review the finished shot and retake the picture if you don't like how it came out) was the truly brilliant aspect of the classic Polaroid, of course then it was 5 minutes and now it's 5 seconds, but up until 10 years ago it was an amazing technical achievement. It's a real shame Polaroid didn't spot which way the wind was blowing sooner, they could have been on the front end of the digital revolution instead of desperately trying to survive it.


71 posted on 05/25/2006 1:43:38 PM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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To: N. Theknow

Konica Minolta is getting big into the multifunction printers, the margin on those is pretty tasty, and there's less need for a wide variety so development costs are less.


72 posted on 05/25/2006 1:49:55 PM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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To: Blueflag

Compared to 1/2000 or .0005?

Race car=225mph=331fps X 0.01=3.3 feet; 331fps X .0005=2 inches.

You won't even be able to see the G in Gatorade.


73 posted on 05/25/2006 1:50:23 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: discostu
It's a real shame Polaroid didn't spot which way the wind was blowing sooner, they could have been on the front end of the digital revolution instead of desperately trying to survive it.

Before he died,my Dad and I used to talk about this very question.During its heyday,Polaroid's only real competitor (in the US) was Kodak,and that competition was,at the most,a partial one. Both companies did well in their particular fields because they did rather different things.

With the dawn of the digital age,Polaroid would,more and more,have be competing with giants like Sony,Panasonic,HP,etc.Of course,the same is now true of Kodak.
I sincerely doubt that Polaroid would have lasted long against such competition regardless of how early they hopped on the digital bandwagon.

If you read up on Kodak,a much larger (and better funded) company than Polaroid ever was,you'll see that they're slowly (or maybe not so slowly) losing that very battle.

74 posted on 05/25/2006 1:59:38 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: KarlInOhio
One other poster mentioned one at $550 which I'll take a look at.

I think Panasonic has a winner in its DMC-FZ30 model which is around that price.
In addition to 8 megapixels (raw), it has 12X optical zoom and shutter speeds to 1/3000, no shutter lag and lots of other goodies.

Steep learning curve but a real value for the price...

75 posted on 05/25/2006 2:00:10 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Drew68
I still own film cameras... while I think the future of photography is digital, the medium will never be perfect.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

76 posted on 05/25/2006 2:04:08 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: js1138
I disagree... the market for film and one time use cameras will always be around. Its not the consumer market that will disappear, its the high end market. Unlike 8 track and vinyl LD's, there will always be some situations where you want to shoot with film.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

77 posted on 05/25/2006 2:06:42 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Uncle Fud
The Panasonic LC1 (Leica Digilux 2) had a 28-90 mm Vario Summicron wide lens. The new Panasonic L1 (and its soon to be announced rebadged Leica sibling) will be the first true DSLR. So its not like there aren't digital ultrawide cameras around. Its just you have to pay the price to get one... the most expensive element isn't the computer circuitry in the camera, its the lens.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

78 posted on 05/25/2006 2:10:45 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Publius6961
film scanners will continue to improve and sell for much longer than that

I hgave a film scanner, an Acer ScanWit, now sold by BenQ. It cost me $300.

At first I thought it was crap, because everything came out very grainy. Then I experimented with its options. I turned on the unsharp mask filter on the scanner driver, cranked up the resolution to the max, and suddenly the scans are great. The files are so big, however, that I have to cut them back a bit in photoshop. they are almost 50 megs before trimming them down.

79 posted on 05/25/2006 2:11:56 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Gay State Conservative

My dad bought one of the first Polaroid outfits (a small suitcase) at the PX in Yokohama back in the late 1950s. I remember the b&w prints that came out of the back of the camera after pulling and peeling, then painting the print. I still have it somewhere...


80 posted on 05/25/2006 2:13:48 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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