Posted on 05/24/2006 2:43:36 PM PDT by Graybeard58
PHOENIX -- By a large margin, Arizonans appear to like the border and immigration proposals sketched out last week by President Bush.
A new statewide survey shows 86 percent of registered voters asked support the president's plan to add 6,000 new Border Patrol agents. And 70 percent agree with his proposal to use National Guard troops in the interim in support roles.
There also is very strong backing for holding employers accountable for the legal status of workers they hire, with 85 percent in favor and only 11 percent opposed.
Bush technically did not propose new employer sanctions. But he said that methods need to be in place to help companies identify which people who are not U.S. citizens are entitled to work here and which are not.
By a smaller margin -- 59 to 25 percent -- Arizonans support creating a new temporary "guest" worker program.
The same survey, conducted by KAET-TV, the Phoenix PBS affiliate, shows voters want action to seal the borders and capture those who come into this country illegally.
A total of 54 percent said they support plans by the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps to build a fence on private land along the U.S.-Mexican border. And Arizonans, by a 59-22 margin, back the decision by Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio to have his volunteer posse members patrol the desert to find and arrest illegal immigrants.
On that latter question, pollster Bruce Merrill said residents of Pima County were less familiar with Arpaio's actions than those in the other 14 counties. But he said there was "no significant difference" in support for the sheriff's actions among those who knew of the posse.
On a related subject of domestic security, Merrill said he found Arizonans deeply divided over the practice of the National Security Agency of accumulating the calling records of many U.S. residents. A total of 39 percent said they support using the database to find terrorist cells, with 41 percent opposed.
The survey, conducted last week, has a margin of error of 5.2 percent.
Smells like a cooked poll.
ping
Would they be so enthusiastic if they realized that these guard troops were going to drop in for a twenty-one day border tour -- minus travel and orientation -- in lieu of their summer camp?
A farce of comings and goings.
It's gotta be a flawed poll! LOL /s
I'm always suspicious when a story does not include the questions. You really don't know what they asked.
I live in AZ and I don't believe it.
With a MOE that large I do not think a lot of people were interviewed.
Smells like one, looks like one, it must be... a cooked poll! This is the state where the Minutemen first began their so far successful campaign to wake up America to the flood of illegals entering our country. This is the state whose citizens defied the governor and other political leaders and passed proposition 200, which by the way, is being held up by our corrupt governor and AG. There is no doubt that this is a cooked poll, from the start.
You know it's a crappy bs plan, when Napolitano jumps all over it and is for it. Pffft....
Hagel-Martinez is not "temporary", there are no "guests". It provides for permanent residence, a Social Security #, and an annual Government check for up to $4,700.
They appear to pulling out all the lies in the last couple of hours to try and close this thing out.
I believe the poll--I've lived in Arizona my entire life and I support the President's border plan.
As so many conservatives feared he would, President Bush proposed a half-hearted attempt to stem the Mexican invasion.
While the president sent 200,000 troops to guard Iraqi borders he could spare only 6000 to guard our own.
In his “immigration reform” speech Bush said he was against amnesty for illegal aliens and then proceeded to outline an amnesty program.
The president added that sending the military to the border was not militarizing the border.
While most Americans oppose amnesty, overwhelming numbers approve of fully militarizing the border.
But Bush would defang the military. Under his plan National Guard troops would act only as auxiliary support personnel for the Border Guard. Presumably if anyone fires at the troops or if they spot illegal aliens sneaking across the border, they are to call the cops.
Internal enforcement also failed to get a place in the “comprehensive” plan. The conventional wisdom is that “to deport all illegal aliens is not possible.”
That’s like saying that we can’t do anything about crime because we can’t round up all of the criminals at once and put them in jail.
Admittedly the12 million illegal aliens said to be here (an underestimation) can’t be rounded up and deported over a weekend. But we can deport illegal aliens where, when, and as we apprehend them. There are several obvious places to begin looking.
For example, there are empty lots and other places in almost every city in America where illegal aliens gather each morning to be hired for day labor. These groups should be arrested and sent home.
The next time illegal aliens seize a city to hold a “rally” to protest the enforcement of our laws, as many as can be caught should be rounded up and deported.
Illegal aliens on the welfare rolls should be identified to the INS and deported.
Repeated raids should be made on employers such as the food processing industry, landscape companies and construction firms who are known to hire illegal aliens. The illegal aliens found should be deported and the companies heavily fined.
In time, it might take years, all illegal aliens would be deported.
Provided that first the flood of illegal aliens coming into the country every day is stopped or it would be like trying to bail out the Titanic with a tea strainer.
Tax cuts began in the Reagan years have allowed our economy to grow to the point where there is virtually no unemployment. In fact we face a severe labor shortage in many areas.
But it is not true, as President Bush and others claim, that illegal aliens are needed to take the jobs Americans won’t accept.
The truth is that if illegal aliens were not around to take low-paying jobs, employers would have to get competitive in the labor market and offer wages that would attract American workers. This is not to say that more workers are not needed.
The time has arrived when Western industrial nations, with their stable or declining birth rates, must consider importing foreign workers. It makes sense to allow a bordering country to provide those workers.
People from Mexico have more in common with Americans than do other Third World countries. Mexicans who come here to work and eventually become citizens can more easily be assimilated into our culture.
Those who want to work and return home could do so as “guest workers” after they have been properly registered, identified and monitored.
There are two ways to approach the immigration crisis. The sensible way, favored I believe by most Americans, is to first secure the border. Second, all illegal aliens must be deported; and third, people who want to come here must follow the legal process.
The opposing way is to maintain the status quo by leaving the borders virtually open, give amnesty to illegal aliens, and ignore or give only lip service to immigration laws.
President Bush’s third way seems to be a weak compromise between doing little and doing nothing.
As so many conservatives feared he would, President Bush proposed a half-hearted attempt to stem the Mexican invasion.
While the president sent 200,000 troops to guard Iraqi borders he could spare only 6000 to guard our own.
In his “immigration reform” speech Bush said he was against amnesty for illegal aliens and then proceeded to outline an amnesty program.
The president added that sending the military to the border was not militarizing the border.
While most Americans oppose amnesty, overwhelming numbers approve of fully militarizing the border.
But Bush would defang the military. Under his plan National Guard troops would act only as auxiliary support personnel for the Border Guard. Presumably if anyone fires at the troops or if they spot illegal aliens sneaking across the border, they are to call the cops.
Internal enforcement also failed to get a place in the “comprehensive” plan. The conventional wisdom is that “to deport all illegal aliens is not possible.”
That’s like saying that we can’t do anything about crime because we can’t round up all of the criminals at once and put them in jail.
Admittedly the12 million illegal aliens said to be here (an underestimation) can’t be rounded up and deported over a weekend. But we can deport illegal aliens where, when, and as we apprehend them. There are several obvious places to begin looking.
For example, there are empty lots and other places in almost every city in America where illegal aliens gather each morning to be hired for day labor. These groups should be arrested and sent home.
The next time illegal aliens seize a city to hold a “rally” to protest the enforcement of our laws, as many as can be caught should be rounded up and deported.
Illegal aliens on the welfare rolls should be identified to the INS and deported.
Repeated raids should be made on employers such as the food processing industry, landscape companies and construction firms who are known to hire illegal aliens. The illegal aliens found should be deported and the companies heavily fined.
In time, it might take years, all illegal aliens would be deported.
Provided that first the flood of illegal aliens coming into the country every day is stopped or it would be like trying to bail out the Titanic with a tea strainer.
Tax cuts began in the Reagan years have allowed our economy to grow to the point where there is virtually no unemployment. In fact we face a severe labor shortage in many areas.
But it is not true, as President Bush and others claim, that illegal aliens are needed to take the jobs Americans won’t accept.
The truth is that if illegal aliens were not around to take low-paying jobs, employers would have to get competitive in the labor market and offer wages that would attract American workers. This is not to say that more workers are not needed.
The time has arrived when Western industrial nations, with their stable or declining birth rates, must consider importing foreign workers. It makes sense to allow a bordering country to provide those workers.
People from Mexico have more in common with Americans than do other Third World countries. Mexicans who come here to work and eventually become citizens can more easily be assimilated into our culture.
Those who want to work and return home could do so as “guest workers” after they have been properly registered, identified and monitored.
There are two ways to approach the immigration crisis. The sensible way, favored I believe by most Americans, is to first secure the border. Second, all illegal aliens must be deported; and third, people who want to come here must follow the legal process.
The opposing way is to maintain the status quo by leaving the borders virtually open, give amnesty to illegal aliens, and ignore or give only lip service to immigration laws.
President Bush’s third way seems to be a weak compromise between doing little and doing nothing.
This is strange since it flies in the face of all other polls and movements apparent in Arizona, the bills they push their legislature to pass(and get vetoed by their idiot governor). I don't believe this poll, as I don't believe most polls. What I do believe is the actions of people in Arizona. They are NOT for amnesty.
This poll is quite suspect for a number of reasons:
1. KAET is a PBS station, liberal and left leaning. It is also a service of Arizona State University – a very liberal institution.
2. As posted elsewhere, the questions and the manner in which they were asked were not given.
3. In no other poll in Arizona that I am aware of has the majority been in favor of President Bush’s plan for granting what amounts to amnesty.
4. Many Arizonans are absolutely apoplectic about the destruction to private property of ranchers in southern Arizona by illegal aliens.
5. Arizonans are furious about the rise in all types of crime in which illegals are involved here – the murders and the dumping of bodies in the deserts, the drive by shootings, the gangs, drug traffic, the car jackings that rocketed us to the number one state in the union for this type of crime. The fact that some of our national parks in southern Arizona are no longer safe to camp in or drive through because of encounters with coyotes, illegals, and drug runners.
In short, the results of this “poll” are in serious question by this Arizonan indeed.
Yeah,
Well, there WAS that glaring omission of the word "amnesty".
Actually, if you read the specific questions and not the misleading headline and conclusions, Arizonans favor border security first and foremost. I don't see any results specifically supporting amnesty for 12 million illegals and god only knows how many kin. The reporter is spinning like a top.
note the slight of hand: el presidente supremo jorge abusto, the senate demonrats, their rino enablers, and their running dogs the msm, have somehow confused people into thinking that what is being shoved down their throats is a "temporary guest worker program," (a bad idea in and of itself), but what is really going on is a Let's Make All The Illegals American Citizens (which DOES NOT fly), but we'll call it a temporary guest worker program.
c'mon arizona ... wake up. you are being deceived.
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