Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Serbia's Navy Left High And Dry By The Vote For Independence
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 5-24-2006 | David Rennie

Posted on 05/23/2006 6:33:04 PM PDT by blam

Serbia's navy left high and dry by the vote for independence

By David Rennie, Europe Correspondent
(Filed: 24/05/2006)

Serbia is about to join the select club of former naval powers.

Officers, who remember the heyday of the old Yugoslav navy - it boasted nearly 80 warships - are weighing their options following Sunday's independence referendum in Serbia's sister republic of Montenegro.

The Yes vote means Serbia will lose its sea ports and naval bases.

Gen Radosav Martinovic, a military adviser to the government of Montenegro, said that the Serbian navy would be lucky to end up with some patrol craft on the Danube.

The general invited Serbia's most capable admirals and officers to stay on and help build a new Montenegrin fleet. The offer may not be that attractive, however, as the new-born nation is planning a coastguard-style force, based on fast patrol boats, plus a three-masted, 180-foot sail training ship, the Jadran.

The Montenegrin authorities have started auctioning off some of the most picturesque bases on the Adriatic to tourist developers.

Other nations, from Ethiopia to the Austro-Hungarian empire, have lost coastlines and waved goodbye to their navies. Bolivia, defying the trend, still maintains a "navy" of river boats and a clutch of admirals, despite losing its coastline to Chile in 1884.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allybetrayed; balkans; clintonistas; clintonlegacy; dancingfascists; dry; high; hoopielite; ihoppy; independence; left; mark502ss; navy; nazisarehappy; pancakeboy; sercias; sorosfluffers; vote; whoneedsteeth
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-78 last
To: Al Simmons

Lol, what? I agreed with you. :P

You've got some serious anger issues, FRiend.


61 posted on 05/23/2006 9:44:51 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: davidwendell
However, in retrospective I think that one can examine the wisdom of past military action.

Absolutely, and while I'd still support US intervention in the Balkans, this is something that reasonable men can disagree on.

The reason I started posting on this thread in the first place isn't because I think Kosovo is a sacred cow, but because a poster said that he actually supported the Serbs for having the guts to "stand up" to Bill Clinton, as if fighting the US military were what true conservatives should have been doing all along. That's not questioning the decision to go to war, that's supporting America's enemies.

62 posted on 05/23/2006 9:48:07 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

To: Lion in Winter
I can only take your response as a refusal to corroborate your claims of service, because it never happened.

I don't think you understand the gravity of the whole "stealing valor" thing, Lion.

63 posted on 05/23/2006 9:48:58 PM PDT by Hoplite
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: 359Henrie
Its because you didn't kill commies with your bare hands your service means nothing.

LOL. And you just know that Israel's secret communist sympathies are the reason that the IDF didn't fight alongside him at the Chosin Reservoir, or wherever it he says he was.

64 posted on 05/23/2006 9:52:08 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: Alter Kaker
This guy is a real secret squirrel. I love the burning tire report.
65 posted on 05/23/2006 9:55:35 PM PDT by 359Henrie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: Alter Kaker

I didn't know Serbia was our enemy. When did they attack us? What threat did they pose to our national security? Did they have WMDs as well?


66 posted on 05/23/2006 10:01:35 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: mark502inf

FYI only.


67 posted on 05/23/2006 10:02:54 PM PDT by Hoplite
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: Torie
I can't look at that picture more than once a century*, so I'll have to take your word on it.

*Not that there's anything wrong with looking at that picture, mind you...

68 posted on 05/23/2006 10:07:22 PM PDT by Hoplite
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: Alter Kaker
God and my country

Those terms are not synonymous.

69 posted on 05/23/2006 10:09:10 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Alter Kaker
We may not care for Bill Clinton or his policies, but he was no Hitler.

Only because of a lack of means and opportunity, not from motive or want.

70 posted on 05/23/2006 10:11:37 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: 359Henrie
"This guy is a real secret squirrel. I love the burning tire report."

That's true about the Croats burning tires. The city is stone and wouldn't burn easily.

It has stone walls all around it and no damage has ever been shown to its famous walls.

You can't see any damage to the walls or buildings in that photo - no crumbling masonry or anything.

It's thick black tire fires.

There was some damage to roof tops between the Croat forces (around 900 were in the city according to Hague trial transcripts) and Yugoslav forces.

By the way, the commander of the navy was an ethnic SLOVENE, who is elderly and I think still imprisoned in the Hague.

He did respond to Croats who initiated attacks by firing at the navy.

But the city is nearly perfectly intact, according to visitors - except for new roof tiles.

Its ancient worn stone paths, its famous walls, and old buildings are standing as they always were.

Some of the money sent for rebuilding was discovered being used to repair old earthquake damage - around Easter 1979 there was an earthquake - which shows that they received in donations much more money than they needed because the damage was quite minimal.

71 posted on 05/23/2006 10:12:28 PM PDT by joan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: Alter Kaker

Speaking out against a war does not constitute aid and comfort to the enemy. You need to lay off the Merlot.


72 posted on 05/23/2006 10:26:30 PM PDT by jokar (for it is by grace, http://www.gbible.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Constantine XIII
Well, it wouldn't be the first time that I misread a post, but it seemed to me that you were implying that I didn't have a clue.

"I'd start a Revolution,

Just can't wait,

But...I'm too tired...and its late"

-Mott the Hoople

73 posted on 05/23/2006 11:39:22 PM PDT by Al Simmons (Hillary Clinton is Stalin in a Dress)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: streetpreacher
"We may not care for Bill Clinton or his policies, but he was no Hitler.

Only because of a lack of means and opportunity, not from motive or want."

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Excellent retort, but to be fair to Slick, its not really accurate...however, see my tag line...

74 posted on 05/23/2006 11:41:58 PM PDT by Al Simmons (Hillary Clinton is Stalin in a Dress)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: 359Henrie; Alter Kaker; Hoplite

Hmmm-all's quiet after 11:45. I guess Lion's hospice nurse finally gace him his Prozac and Geritol!;-)


75 posted on 05/24/2006 6:39:59 AM PDT by Sarajevo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: 359Henrie
Is it me or is [Lion] this guy Walter Mittie?

That's a real insult to Walter Mitty!

76 posted on 05/24/2006 8:14:14 AM PDT by mark502inf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Hoplite

Get those pancakes ready boy, and we'll help your look for your dentures.


77 posted on 05/24/2006 4:43:54 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: Lion in Winter

I just noticed your reply, sorry . It seems to me that if you took all the tires in Dubrovnik and threw in all the tires in Venice, you still couldn't properly prepare a small Kentucky tobacco bed.


78 posted on 05/25/2006 7:45:54 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-78 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson