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To: AnAmericanMother
I don't get the point of your post. I believe that God is Love. Perhaps you do not. I do not believe that the Bible has been translated correctly, nor do I believe that the disciples even truly understood much of what Jesus taught. You may believe something else.

That is one of the fascinating things about belief. People are free to believe whatever they want to - regardless of what anyone else believes. You are free to believe whatever you choose to - as am I.

The idea that God is less than Love does not make sense to me. Just as saying that Jesus was a condemner and an attacker does not ring true for me.

305 posted on 05/24/2006 12:26:25 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
The idea that God is less than Love does not make sense to me. Just as saying that Jesus was a condemner and an attacker does not ring true for me.

God is MORE than Love. He is Love, but He is also Holy. Perhaps you think that God's Love means that He will not condemn man's sin, but if that is the case then there is no reason for Jesus to have died for our sins. If there was no reason for Jesus to have died for our sins, then He would not be God's son, because there would be no reason for God to send His son to us. If Jesus was not God's son, then there is no reason to pay any attention to His teaching, because he was clearly a lunatic -- claiming to be one with the Father, claiming He would rise from the dead, etc.

311 posted on 05/24/2006 12:36:00 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Sunsong
We are made in Christ/God image and likeness not the other way round as you seem to espouse.

He is indeed Incomprehensible Love and Unfathomable Mercy and intrinsic to these divine traits is loving condemnation of sins and mercy for repentance thereof.
312 posted on 05/24/2006 12:36:04 PM PDT by dcnd9
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To: Sunsong
God is certainly Love and all of the Love that there is.

But Love is not the pitying, excusing, weak emotion that says, "aw. . . sure, go ahead. I love you anyway." That, as C.S. Lewis said, has cheated many a statesman out of his honor and many a woman out of her virginity.

The problem (for us) with God being Love is that he is also Good - all the Good that there is. And sin cannot exist in the presence of Absolute Good - it shrivels up and burns away. In other words, God does not really condemn the sinner - the sinner and his sin condemn themselves, because they cannot exist in God's presence.

Jesus most certainly condemned the unrepentant sinners - not just the cleansing of the Temple, but the multiple fierce and uncompromising condemnations of the Pharisees and Sadducees "you brood of vipers! who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?", and the Seven Woes in Matthew . . .

And you can't put that down to a bad translation, unfortunately. It's there in the original Greek, plain as print.

318 posted on 05/24/2006 12:41:20 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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