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To: Sunsong
The idea that God is less than Love does not make sense to me. Just as saying that Jesus was a condemner and an attacker does not ring true for me.

God is MORE than Love. He is Love, but He is also Holy. Perhaps you think that God's Love means that He will not condemn man's sin, but if that is the case then there is no reason for Jesus to have died for our sins. If there was no reason for Jesus to have died for our sins, then He would not be God's son, because there would be no reason for God to send His son to us. If Jesus was not God's son, then there is no reason to pay any attention to His teaching, because he was clearly a lunatic -- claiming to be one with the Father, claiming He would rise from the dead, etc.

311 posted on 05/24/2006 12:36:00 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember
God is MORE than Love. He is Love, but He is also Holy. Perhaps you think that God's Love means that He will not condemn man's sin, but if that is the case then there is no reason for Jesus to have died for our sins. If there was no reason for Jesus to have died for our sins, then He would not be God's son, because there would be no reason for God to send His son to us. If Jesus was not God's son, then there is no reason to pay any attention to His teaching, because he was clearly a lunatic -- claiming to be one with the Father, claiming He would rise from the dead, etc.

What is more than Love? I would say that Holiness is part of Love. That Love is Holy. I also think that there is no condemnation or attack in Holiness. I think we will disagree on this as well(g). But I do like logic and so I'll give you my perspective on your reasoning here.

Perhaps you think that God's Love means that He will not condemn man's sin, but if that is the case then there is no reason for Jesus to have died for our sins.

I think that God loves us beyond what we can imagine or comprehend at this time. I think that God wants us to love Him and to love one another. I think that God does not want us to condemn each other but to love each other and help each other. I think that Jesus was crucified because He was sinless and perfectly loving and that the people of the time could not stand that...because they were too enthralled with condemnation and attack to understand a love like Jesus'. Clearly Jesus harmed no one and healed many and was crucified for that and for saying that He was the Son of God. But I look to the resurrection rather than the crucifiction as the heart of Jesus' message. Jesus, through God within Him - overcame all - even death. And for that reason, imo, He has the *right* to ask people to listen to Him(g).

I look to the resurrection not the crucifiction as the crux of the lesson there. That even in the most extreme case - Love overcomes. Jesus has taught us that Love is the most important thing of all and that not even crucifiction kills Love for it is eternal.

325 posted on 05/24/2006 1:02:37 PM PDT by Sunsong
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