Faux Ranger MacBeth: "I'm Proud Of My Battle Buddies"

Sweetness & Light ^ | May 23, 2006 | N/A

[Sam Hill]

Here’s a “column” Jesse MacBeth wrote for the Arizona State University's student online paper, the Web Devil. It is a response to an earlier ASU article which can be found here.

Anyone who has seen his video interviews, heard his (probably paid) anti-war speeches or read his anti-war screeds, maybe surprised at his earlier attitude towards US soldiers:

Guest Column: I never wanted to protest

by Jesse Macbeth
Special to The State Press
Friday, April 23, 2004

There are several things I would like to mention that Lucia Bill and Brian Clapp of The State Press failed to mention or distorted to fit their opinions.

But before that, let me tell you why I protest. I don’t protest for the homeless people because I know most of them are homeless because that is the way they choose to live. They like that life. I am doing my protest against Coffee Plantation on the basis that they banned me from their property for the sole reason that I was in my military uniform, in case some of the boneheads who own Coffee Plantation and those in the press who advocate for them have forgotten. This is America. We are still at war. Soldiers and civilians are still dying. So why would someone boot an American soldier who is drinking coffee that he paid for and talking quietly to friends?

They booted me on my appearance alone. If they do not like green or BDUs, then that is their problem. If they don’t like American servicemen, then why are they in America? Yes, I told the security guard and the employee who said I couldn’t be there because of my uniform to f— off. And I will tell them that again and anyone who bans an American serviceman who is peacefully drinking bought product from their store. I would understand if I was being loud and disturbing people, if I stank so bad they were losing customers or if I was disturbing their business in any way. But I was doing none of those.

I understand they’re upset about the homeless bathing and panhandling in the store. I would be upset about that, too. But again, my problem with them and the Free to Camp Coalition’s problem are way different. I would gladly sit down with Coffee Plantation and discuss a way we can resolve this, because I’ve really got better things to do than protest. I am on the verge of being reshipped out. If Coffee Plantation will agree to change some things, then I will no longer protest. Some of the things include not banning people based on appearance or social status. If people are bathing in your bathroom, then ban them. But if they are paying customers and they are quietly sitting down and enjoying a drink like everyone else and you ban them because you don’t like what they’re wearing, then that is not right. If they were worried and customers were complaining, then I might understand.

I served in Iraq 16 months as a U.S. Army Ranger. Coming back home and being treated that way angered me. Coffee Plantation is not the enemy or my enemy. The owners who discriminate are the enemy. I used to go and hang out there all the time. I would play chess and buy food there all day sometimes.

Lucia Bill and Brian Clapp, it works better if you print the whole truth, not shape it to fit your opinion or Coffee Plantation’s. Your column is just another example of how the media mistreats the people. I love America. I would fight a million wars and die a million times to ensure the safety of America and the American people. So if that makes me a jerk or a socialistic pig, then so be it. I have a lot of pride in my country, my service in my uniform and all of my battle buddies out there right now fighting and dying. I won’t set that aside for anything. If Coffee Plantation wants to sit and talk to resolve this, I will gladly.

I won’t discuss the day I’m being shipped off. But we need to arrange talks ASAP if Coffee Plantation wants to talk.

There is no evidence that MacBeth was subsequently shipped anywhere, except perhaps to jail for credit card fraud.

But compare MacBeth's remarks here with those he made in a subsequent interview with the Socialist Alternative:

The War the Media is Not Reporting — An Iraqi Veteran Speaks Out

Apr 26, 2006
By Justice

Jesse Macbeth, formerly a Special Forces Ranger in Iraq, is now active with Iraq Veterans Against the War in Tacoma, Washington. The Rangers are elite units sent door-to-door in Iraq to combat the insurgency. They were also sent into Fallujah to crush all opposition to the occupation of that city. Justice recently interviewed Jesse.

How did you end up in the military?
I grew up on the streets. I got into trouble for fighting. The same judge that I’d been dealing with my whole life told me that I wouldn’t have to do adult time if I signed up for the military immediately. Sometimes I kinda wish I went to jail instead.

How did you become a Special Forces Ranger?
Basic training was easy for me. Growing up on the streets, I was used to running from cops. I was used to not eating for days. I got picked to go to Ranger School.

What did your division do?
I was in the Third Ranger Battalion. Our job was to strike fear in the hearts of the Iraqi people.

We would go into people’s houses and plow down entire families. We would interrogate people. If we didn’t like the answers that they gave, then we would kill the youngest child. If they gave more answers that we didn’t like, then we’d move on to the rest of the family. They could’ve been innocent people.

We would leave the bodies in the streets and blame it on the Shi’ites or the Sunnis. [In Fallujah] we were ordered to go into mosques and slaughter people while they were praying. I won’t go into full detail because I’m still haunted by the memories.

What was the assault on Fallujah like?
Fallujah is where we slaughtered people in mosques. We provoked the people there. Some people escaped from the mosques and saw us. We would dig holes and leave mass graves of children, women, and old men. We were ordered to let people die on the street. We were told that the Geneva Convention means nothing to us in combat.

We were ordered to fire on peaceful protesters in Fallujah. Somebody threw a rock at us, and an officer said that he thought it was a grenade. Then we were ordered to fire. When it’s daylight in Iraq, it’s daylight! Nobody really thought it was a grenade.

What medals did you get in Iraq?
I got a lot. I got a purple heart. Half of them, I don’t remember. I got five or six medals just for landing. I got a bronze star.

What injuries did you get?
I got stabbed many times. I got shrapnel in my knee. I got shot in the back.

What do you think is the role of the U.S. in Iraq?
The military is terrorists there. Soldiers thought we were going to fight terrorism, but we became the terrorists. We were told we were going to liberate the country and find weapons of mass destruction. The real aim is to have the U.S. own the country. The U.S. wants oil.

How has the government treated you since you got back?
Like shit. I hate them. I’m not gonna be a terrorist or anything, but I hate them. They killed my battle brothers. They used me. They messed me up. They didn’t care about me. They turned me into a beast, a machine.

What Veteran’s benefits have you gotten?
I ain’t getting nothing. A card and that’s it.

Where do you work?
I’m an Iraq vet, and I work at Wendy’s.

How did you get involved in IVAW?
Veteran’s Affairs told me they had no money for me. I always knew the war was fucked up, but that motivated me to say something about it. The government throws us away. They did the same thing after Vietnam.

Why do you think people should get involved in the antiwar movement?
Because it’s gotta stop. Innocent people are getting killed. Bush says we have to stay the course and that it’s hard work. Bush doesn’t know what work is.

Anything else you want to say?
Yeah. The news here is controlled. The military lets information out that serves their purposes. We slaughtered a sovereign nation. Reporters got killed.

When I was growing up, everyone thought I’d be a criminal, but they were wrong. I’m gonna be one of the leaders of the revolution.

But who can believe that a man who had been through what MacBeth claims to have been through would spend so much time “protesting” rousting bums (like himself) from the johns of a coffee shop? (Which was probably the real cause of this "protest.")

It is just hilarious that the leftwing lunatics fell for this obvious fraud.

But they never could resist liars.

[Sam Hill]

It was ever thus.

[Sam Hill]

More on this lunatic.

[dead]

We would go into people’s houses and plow down entire families. We would interrogate people. If we didn’t like the answers that they gave, then we would kill the youngest child. If they gave more answers that we didn’t like, then we’d move on to the rest of the family. They could’ve been innocent people.

This guy fights from his couch for the nation of Tarantinovia.

[Future Snake Eater]

How did you become a Special Forces Ranger?

"I got to be a super-duper combat Ranger after I played a video game and this guy in a cool car came up to me and said I was a good killer, so I should go with him and I was like, what the hell?, so I went with him and now I'm a badass dood."

[tet68]

When I was growing up, everyone thought I’d be a criminal, but they were wrong. I’m gonna be one of the leaders of the revolution.

Oh ho, and THEY were right after all!

[Tribune7]

I grew up on the streets. I got into trouble for fighting. The same judge that I’d been dealing with my whole life told me that I wouldn’t have to do adult time if I signed up for the military immediately. Sometimes I kinda wish I went to jail instead.

Then he left his wife in Baltimore, Jack and went out for a ride and never came back.

[Ben Mugged]

The damage this traitor has done to America cannot be undone. The truth will not stop the rumor that will propagate this fiction into urban legend. A very public trial on sedition followed by a very public apology would go a long way.

Can we execute a citizens arrest on this creature for sedition?

[Rakkasan1]

A Job Americans Won't Do, Even at $34 an Hour
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1634437/posts

there ya go, Rump Ranger. take your fake self to go get this fake job
in this fake article and shut your whining pie hole.

[taxcontrol]

Boy, this guy is so lame, he STARTS off making mistakes.... you don't get picked for the Rangers, you must volunteer.

Would some Freeper with connections to either the VA or with Army personnel, shut this guy up!?

[Joe 6-pack]

Well, the CIA would have recruited me for undercover work, but they insisted I stop wearing my Superbowl Championship ring and I refused, so I went to work for the Kerry campaign instead, although I'm on sabbatical this week to drive in the Indianapolis 500....hope all you guys will be watching!

[Sam Hill]

Indeed, MacBeth's long and intimate involvement with Arizona's criminal justice system doesn't seem to have left him any time to be in the military, let alone do the things he now claims.

From the Arizona Supreme Court's records:

SEARCH RESULTS

	Party Name	Date of Birth	Party Address	Court	Case Number
1	JESSE ADAM MACBETH	03/21/1984	PIMA, AZ 85543	Pima Justice	J-0502-CR-20040075
2	JESSE ADAM MACBETH	03/21/1984		Graham County Superior	S-0500-CR-2004171

 

CASE DETAIL

 

Case Number:  J-0502-CR-20040075				Case Category:  Criminal		Case Title:  ST OF AZ VS JESSE ADAM MACBET
Court:  Pima Justice			Judge:  DEWEY L BRYCE			Filing Date:   03/23/2004			Disposition Date:   06/17/2004

 

Party Name:  JESSE ADAM MACBETH

Party Type:  D 1 - DEFNDT/RESPNDT

Date of Birth:  03/21/1984

Citation:  CNONE

Count 1:  FALSE REPORTING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT	Disposition Date:  06/17/2004	Disposition:  COMPL DISMISSED BY CTY ATTY
Count 2:  FRAUDULENT USE OF CREDIT CARD	Disposition Date:  06/17/2004	Disposition:  BOUND OVER TO SUPERIOR COURT

 

Event Date	Event Description	Party
6/17/2004	ARRAIGNMENT	D 1
6/17/2004	ORIG. FILE TO SUPERIOR COURT	D 1
6/17/2004	FELONY PRELIM HEARING HELD	D 1
6/17/2004	DEFNDNT BOUND OVER TO SUPR CRT	D 1
6/10/2004	WARRANT QUASHED/EXECUTED	D 1
6/10/2004	COUNSEL APPOINTED	D 1
6/10/2004	I/A HELD: FELONY/MISD/CR TR	D 1
6/10/2004	DEFENDANT IN CUSTODY	D 1
6/10/2004	PH HEARING SET	D 1
6/2/2004	WARRANT ISSUED	D 1
4/19/2004	RETURNED UNSERVED	D 1
4/16/2004	LETTER RETURNED	D 1
3/23/2004	SUMM ISSUED CR,SR,TR,DR,MR,FR	D 1
3/23/2004	COMPLAINT FILED-PROSECUTOR	D 1

 

CASE DETAIL

 

Case Number:  S-0500-CR-2004171				Case Category:  Criminal		Case Title:  ST OF AZ VS JESSE ADAM MACBET
Court:  Graham County Superior			Judge:  R DOUGLAS HOLT			Filing Date:   06/17/2004			Disposition Date:   09/28/2004

 

Party Name:  JESSE ADAM MACBETH

Party Type:  D 1 - DEFNDT/RESPNDT

Date of Birth:  03/21/1984

Citation:  CNONE

Count 1:  FRAUDULENT USE OF CREDIT CARD

Disposition Date:  09/28/2004

Disposition:  GUILTY

 

Event Date	Event Description	Party
5/1/2006	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
5/1/2006	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
4/1/2006	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
4/1/2006	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
3/1/2006	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
3/1/2006	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
2/1/2006	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
2/1/2006	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
1/13/2006	ME STATUS CONFERENCE
1/1/2006	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
1/1/2006	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
12/9/2005	ORDER SETTING
12/1/2005	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
12/1/2005	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
11/1/2005	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
11/1/2005	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
10/1/2005	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
10/1/2005	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
9/23/2005	*	D 1
9/23/2005	PET TO REVOKE PROBATION
9/1/2005	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
9/1/2005	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
8/1/2005	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
8/1/2005	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
7/1/2005	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
7/1/2005	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
6/1/2005	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
6/1/2005	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
5/9/2005	RELEASE ORDER
5/9/2005	NOTICE OF RIGHTS AFTER JDMT
5/1/2005	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
5/1/2005	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
4/25/2005	ME REVOCATION ARRAIGNMENT
4/25/2005	ARREST/BOOKING RECORD
4/25/2005	*	D 1
4/18/2005	*	D 1
4/18/2005	PET TO REVOKE PROBATION
4/1/2005	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
4/1/2005	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
3/1/2005	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
3/1/2005	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
2/14/2005	FUND: ADULT PROBATION FEES	D 1
2/14/2005	FUND: EXTRA ADULT PROBATION	D 1
2/1/2005	AFFIDAVIT OF SERVICE
11/29/2004	NOTICE TO RECORDER OF A FELONY
10/5/2004	PROBATION TRANSFER FEE 1 TIME	D 1
9/28/2004	RELEASE ORDER
9/28/2004	VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT
9/28/2004	FUND: 2002 PROBATION SURCHARGE	D 1
9/28/2004	FUND: TIME PYMT $20 JCEF	D 1
9/28/2004	PROBATION	D 1
9/28/2004	CONDITIONS OF PROBATION
9/28/2004	FUND: BASE FINE	D 1
9/28/2004	FUND: 2002 SURCHARGES (80%)	D 1
9/28/2004	ME SENTENCING (26.16, RCrP)
9/28/2004	FUND: PUBLIC DEF ADMIN FEE	D 1
9/28/2004	JAIL/PRISON	D 1
9/28/2004	FUND: PROSECUTION COSTS	D 1
9/28/2004	SENT RESTITUTION	D 1
9/16/2004	CONDITIONS OF RELEASE ORDER
9/13/2004	*	D 1
9/13/2004	ME CONTINUANCE
9/8/2004	IA ON FTA WARRANT
9/8/2004	RELEASE ORDER
9/8/2004	*	D 1
8/30/2004	*	D 1
8/16/2004	ME CONTINUANCE
8/5/2004	PRESENTENCE REPORT
7/19/2004	GUILTY PLEA PROCEEDING
7/19/2004	PLEA AGREEMENT
7/19/2004	NOTICE OF RIGHTS AFTER JDMT
7/19/2004	RELEASE ORDER
7/19/2004	FINANCIAL STATEMENT
7/19/2004	ME CHANGE OF PLEA HEARING
7/12/2004	ME PRETRIAL CONFERENCE
6/29/2004	DISCLOSURE BY PLAINTIFF
6/28/2004	ME ORDER SETTING HEARING/TRIAL
6/28/2004	ORDER SETTING
6/22/2004	M E ARRAIGNMENT AND PLEA
6/22/2004	MOTION
6/21/2004	TIME SCHEDULE/NOTICE OF TRIAL
6/18/2004	TRANSMITTAL CERTIFICATE FROM
6/18/2004	INFORMATION

[kingu]

From the Wikipedia discussion page on this guy...

Today, the Army ran a check on Mr. MacBeth’s credentials. It turns out, not surprisingly to anybody with half a mind, that Mr. MacBeth has NO Army service record. Anywhere. Period. This is a direct quote given to me by Army spokesman John Boyce:

“Initial research by the U.S. Army Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg shows no Soldier with the name of Jesse Macbeth having ever been assigned to the Special Forces or the Army Rangers -- which are, in fact, two separate disciplines. This appears to be some sort of hoax. No Soldier by that name at Fort Lewis to our knowledge, in the past, either. Of course, the line about "go into the Army or go to jail" is vintage TV script not heard since the 1960s. There are also numerous wear and appearance issues with the Soldier's uniform -- a mix of foreign uniforms with the sleeves rolled up like a Marine and a badly floppy tan beret worn like a pastry chef. Of course, the allegations of war crimes are vague, as are the awards the Soldier allegedly received.”

And then...

I just phoned the IVAW, they said Jessie has resighned his membership and is no longer a member. They are investigating if he was hired by someone.. No further info right now.

So ya got the normal CYA - he must be a paid plant by some vast right wing conspiracy.

[atomicpossum]

It was ever thus.

Lol.

[Jaxter]

Date of article - Friday, April 23, 2004

From article - I served in Iraq 16 months as a U.S. Army Ranger.

16 months prior to April 2004 would have been about December 2002. So this guy was there prior to the start of the war? Also, I saw on an earlier thread that he was born in 1984. This means he was a fully trained Ranger at the age of 18. Hmmm.. This does not compute.

[rwa265]

Sounds like a Forrest Gump story.

[Americanexpat]

Michelle Malkin already checked him out and according to an Army spolesman this guy is a phoney SOB.

[Jack Deth]

Hi, Sam Hill:

Michelle Malkin, "Hotair" and the Milbloggers are alllllll over MacBeth like a cheap suit!

http://hotair.com/archives/top-picks/2006/05/22/anti-war-video-bogus/

Jack.

[taxcontrol]

So is there a way to put this guy in jail? Cant the Army sue him for slander? SOMETHING!!!

I hate it when these want-a-be slugs come out from under their rocks and defame honest to God HEROs.

[Joe 6-pack]

"Sounds like a Forrest Gump story."

Did you know I had originally been asked to play the lead in that movie, but the director owed Hanks a favor, so I got passed over and that's when I went to the Balkans as a mercenary hit man under the guise of an internationally acclaimed goulash chef. I could tell you more, but I'd hate to hog the limelight when this *Ranger* has such an important story to tell....

[TheSpottedOwl]

Another sociopath on the loose. Maybe Cindy can adopt him?