Posted on 05/23/2006 8:27:24 AM PDT by dinasour
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Benson: Sir, you are no John Kennedy!
In the airport on Sunday CNN said Jefferson was a Republican for the 5 hours I waited there.
Thanks for the live thread ...
That makes me so mad I can't see straight.
The word that keeps coming to me is...CLUELESS.
Yes, I recall a short squatty old haggardly witch stirring her pot, missing a couple of teeth!! Haha!! Helen?? haha!!
Great thread! Tony was great to start with and is getting more comfortable as he gets "into" it!!!
Unbelievable, and you know that they knew better than that.
I don't even want to think about that possibility.
Tony did great again. I love the way he handles the leading and nasty questions.
Being goosed? You're right...is he on vacation or on assignment somewhere? You can bet Chrissy Matthews will be on later with horrible stuff out of his mouth.
Even I have it pounded it into my head from Rush...William Jefferson--DEMOCRAT, Louisiana...
I'll never forget the "deer in the headlights" look Dan Quayle had...too bad because he was a great Senator...as Veep, GHWB didn't give him much to do (unlike Bush-Cheney), but Quayle was a lot smarter than they gave him credit for. OK, he couldn't spell potato(e)!
I turned on Chrissy Matthews last night for a few minutes...and he was STILL arguing with his guest about the reason we went to war in Iraq!!!!
The man is obsessed to the point of being so out of touch with the real world, it is amazing.
Thanks again for keeping this organized. Great job!
I'm definitely gonna have to research this now, but as I recall, according to Quayle's book "Standing Firm," that potato(e) incident was competely mischaracterized by the media. If I find it I'll FReepMail you.
I seem to recall that he was using the teacher's notes or spelling book. It was spelled wrong on the list he was given by the folk at the school. Set up?
Pinz
Something like that, I think. I'll look for his book, I know I have it.
I wonder, is there anyway we can sue CNN out of their monopoly in Airports? LOL
It's like torture, locked in and brainwashed.
I found this article about the potatoe mishap. Note Vice-President Quayle's reference to Gore's comment about a leopard changing its stripes. So true.
http://www.capitalcentury.com/1992.html
1992: Gaffe with an 'e' at the end
By PAUL MICKLE / The Trentonian
Just the other night on television, Jay Leno was poking fun at some gaffe by George W. Bush, whose picture morphed into a photograph of Dan Quayle on the screen behind the comic.
Six years out of office with two failed presidential bids now behind him, ex Vice President Quayle still ranks as Americas favorite dumb politician because of what happened in Trenton on June 15, 1992.
Thats the day, you probably recall, a Trenton sixth grader had to teach the Vice President of the United States that potato is not spelled with an e on the end.
In his 1994 memoir, Quayle devotes a whole chapter to the events in a classroom at Trentons Munoz Rivera School and the impact of them on his career.
"It was a defining moment of the worst kind imaginable, Quayle wrote in the autobiography. "Politicians live and die by the symbolic sound bite.
Quayle ruefully reported on a Washington Post article that suggested the Trenton flub got such wide media play because "it seemed like a perfect illustration of what people thought about me anyway.
Less than five months after the incident, Quayle and President Bush were voted out of office, replaced by Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Ever since, the ex VP has been a straight-faced political joke.
To understand why, its important to know something about the way politics and the media work in America. "Image is all in politics, Quayle said, and the media not only project images, but also brings out any flaw in the picture.
Quayles image had been fodder for America comedians since the beginning, in 1988, when GOP presidential nominee George Bush tapped the 42-year-old Senator from Indiana as his VP.
When Quayle got on the victory podium with Bush for the first time at the GOP convention that summer someone remarked that he "looked like a guy who had just won a game show.
Quayle knew his boyish looks might hurt him and worked hard to present a studious image during the campaign. Despite a few blunders by Quayle, the Bush ticket prevailed in the election of 1988.
Days later, seeking to stifle the buzz in political circles that he was intellectually challenged, Quayle sat down with a group of top American political reporters for a televised two-hour discussion.
The newsmen, and many viewers, were left with the impression that, for all the jokes about him, the new vice president was a well-informed, politically savvy young man.
Through most of his term traveling the world to represent the president, meeting heads of state, giving speeches to all types of groups Quayle managed to avoid any serious gaffes. At least thats how he put it in his bio, Standing Firm.
June 15, 1992, started with Quayle flying out of Washington at 8:15 a.m. for a speech in New York that would be "about everything that was wrong with that city.
Quayle told the Manhattan Institute in a speech at the Waldorf-Astoria that New York was a mess because the liberal political policies of the past 40 years had failed.
In the book, Quayle said he knew little about his next stop, in Trenton, other than it was to help spotlight the citys Weed and Seed program, which still provides anti-drug education to grade schoolers while they also are being watched by adults until their parents get home from work.
When he got the Munoz Rivera School, Quayle spoke with some women involved in the program, saw a drill team perform and looked in on some self-esteem classes before his aides started hustling him off to another classroom for a staged spelling bee.
"What are we supposed to do? I asked Keith Nahigian, the advance man who had prepared this little photo op, Quayle wrote.
"Just sit there and read these words off some flash cards, and the kids will go up and spell them at the blackboard, the handler told the VP.
"Has anyone checked the card? another aide asked.
"Oh, yeah, responded Nahigian. "We looked at them and theyre just very simple words. No big deal.
Enter William Figueroa, 12, a sixth-grader from the Mott School in the South Ward who had been bused to Munoz Rivera to take part in the vice presidential event.
Figueroa knew how to spell potato, and he wrote it in a legible script on the blackboard when Quayle announced his word for the spelling bee.
Quayle looked at the blackboard, then at his contest card, and gently and quietly told the boy, "Youre close, but you left a little something off. The e on the end.
"So William, against his better judgment and trying to be polite, added an e and won applause for it from those assembled in the classroom, including Mayor Doug Palmer, Quayle wrote.
The misspelling wasnt mentioned until the end of the press conference afterward, when one reporter asked Quayle, "How do you spell potato?
"I gave him a puzzled look, and then the press started laughing. It wasnt until that moment that I realized anything was wrong, Quayle wrote.
"None of the staff people had told me. Caught off guard, I just rattled on a little to fill the air something about how I wasnt going to get into spelling matters but I knew something was really amiss.
Indeed. At about the time of the gaffe, in fact, The Trentonians night reporter was arriving at the office and hearing the editors plea for a story suitable for page 1.
"What are you talking about? Youve got the vice president in town today, the reporter said.
"You know Quayles not going to say anything newsworthy, the editor responded.
"Im not talking about his political message. Im saying watch for Quayle to foul up something, the reporter said.
Soon after, the reporter who had covered Quayles Trenton tour showed up in the newsroom and was ask how the event had gone.
He said Quayle delivered the usual political pap, prompting the night reporter to holler out, "Yeah, but what did he foul up?"
"Well, the reporter responded, "Quayle cant spell potato.
The editor had his front-page story, complete with the only media interview with Figueroa, who said the experience made him believe all the talk about the vice president being "an idiot.
Soon after the paper hit the streets, the scene in the Trenton classroom was playing on national television, just as Quayle had warned his wife it would be when he got home from Trenton the night before.
Comics loved it, and a staffer from the David Letterman Show called The Trentonian the morning after seeking help locating Figueroa so he could be invited on the show.
The next day, after his father sent him for a haircut and warned him to speak a bit more diplomatically about the vice president of the United State, Figueroa made his national television debut.
The Trenton kid wowed the Letterman audience. He told of the spelling bee, saying, "I knew he was wrong, but since hes the vice president I went back to the blackboard and put an e on the end and went back to my seat.
"Afterward, I went to the dictionary, and there was potato like I spelled it. Figueroa wouldnt call Quayle an "idiot again, in deference to his father, William Collazo, and Palmer, who had called the boys mother and warned that funds for Weed and Seed could be cut off if the VP got mad enough.
"I know hes not an idiot, he told the goading Letterman, "but he needs to study more. Do you have to go to college to be vice president?
From then on, the potato incident would become a campaign weapon for the Democrats backing Clinton and Gore. Figueroa was flown in to deliver the pledge of allegiance at the Democratic National Convention that summer.
Image-conscious Quayle laughed it off on the outside. But as his book indicates, he was fuming mad about the gaffe and blamed his aides for letting it happen and the press for exploiting it.
He referred to Gore saying in a speech that a leopard had changed it "stripes, and said if he had said that, "there would have been a week of Quayle jokes on the late-night shows and three dozen editorial cartoons set inside zoos.
The medias "obsession with my small verbal blunders went beyond the bounds of fairness, Quayle wrote in his book.
Now, fast forward five years to 1997, when The Trentonian decided to look up William Figueroa to see how he was doing after his hour of fame.
By then, he was a 17-year-old high school dropout who had fathered a child and was working a low-paying job at an auto showroom.
Quayle, Mr. Family Values, couldnt be reached for comment on what had become of his "potato nemesis.
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