Presidential Irresponsiblility

National Review Online ^ | 5/22/06 | Mark R. Levin

[hosepipe]

[ that's the freaking 10 ton elephant in the corner of the room ]

True.. I watch to see or even detect an attitude that recognizes that(10 ton elephant) with those that talk of single issue voters.. You know the ones.. That assume a "higher knowledge", deeper and wider in scope than the single issue voter can detect..(meaning those upset with Bushs immigration, LACK of intelligent policy)

They seem to be clueless.. and they're freepers too.. Amazing to me.. that they absolutely REFUSE to see that multi millions of brand new democrats is NOT A GOOD THING.. actually a tragic thing.. Denial?.. I don't know.. Anywhere else I might say so, but not here(FR).. Cognitive Dissonance I think.. has to be.. What good is a War (over there) when your house is being broken into and occupied?(over here).. Duuugh.. The War(s) "there" are secondary, vote fraud "here" by aliens due to made legal is primary..

The White RINO House bogarding this issue is also a mystery.. actually lobbying for MORE Illegal and Legal Insurgents than less.. MORE?..

Little wonder that Washington D.C. is in such disarray if that can go on HERE(FR), with people that I KNOW should know more.. no newbies either.. With most freepers you'd have SHOOT many of them before they would vote for a democrat.. or threaten their familys with harm.. YET they cannot see that multi millions of Illegal and Legal Insurgents(democrats) would change ANY hope of ANY republican relevance.. It Must be FEAR.. they are afraid of the democrats.. instead of the democrats being AFRAID OF THEM..

More than that they cannot see that elected republican officals need to be Afraid of THEM.. more than they(officials) are afraid of the democrats.. True that the democrats in control of Congress for two years can/would commit a LOT of mischief.. But something MUST happen before 2008.. Something MUST happen to republican incumbents that survive 2006.. not democrats.. The democrats are beyond help, or they would not even BE democrats..

Amnesty in ANY form to Illegal or even Legal Insurgents will make them democrats.. Central and South Americans are NOT Cubans.. At least "some" Cubans have had their fill of socialism.. not all of them even.. I have lived in South Florida and California.. different people entirely.. Few threads bring that out either.. Central and South Americans are prime candidates for socialism.. Mexicans in particular..

[MNJohnnie]

Whaaa! They are not doing 100% of only what I want! Whaaa!

New day, same tired out old whining from the same tired out old Freepers in the Always Bitching crowd.

Gee what is it? You figure if you just keep screaming the same nonsense long enough your knee jerk 100% Bush haters political temper tantrum will somehow become politically relevant?

I suggest you people try being FOR something one time. Then maybe we will pay attention to you.

All you people ever do is bitch, bitch bitch. Same exact post over and over and over and over. No matter the issue, the SAME exact whining. Gee why waste our time? We all ready KNOW what your position is going to be before the issue even comes up. The ONLY difference between you and the Dems is what you bitch about. That both you and they are just going to endlessly bitch what ever the GOP does is all ready known by us. Preaching mindlessly to the Whine All The Time choir does ONE thing, bore the rest of us to distraction

[trubluolyguy]

New day, same tired out old whining from the same tired out old Freepers in the Always Bitching crowd.

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And how are you this fine evening? It's a beautiful night. I do wish you a peaceful night.

[trubluolyguy]

I suggest you people try being FOR something one time. Then maybe we will pay attention to you.

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Thats a GREAT idea. Really it is. I am for the rule of law and CONSERVATIVE politicians. How about you? {:o)

[ViLaLuz]

Does anyone see that the globalists have already decided who our next president will be and are already taking steps to make sure it comes to pass?

[MNJohnnie]

I see. The fact that your side lost the vote in the Senate 40-55 means NOTHING. Better to just scream endlessly and get NOTHING done so the existing DO Nothing system stays in place and we can hear the same collect of Know Nothings mindlessly bitch about 20 or 30 or 40 million illegals for the next 4 years.

Adults understand the need to GET SOME THINGS DONE rather then just throw a childish temper tantrum because their emotion based dogma is not being imposed on everyone around them by decree. That is NOT how a Constitutional Republic works.

The Always Whining better wise up. They are headed on a course where you will get 100% of NOTHING thus leaving the existing system in place. The same system that created the mess they bitch endlessly about NOW. They win and you people LOSE if that happens.

[trubluolyguy]

Well you just have a wonderful evening now. I know I will. See ya tomorrow! {:o)

[krunkygirl]

I find your comments very interesting.
My questions is "Why?" Why are Bush and company doing this?!

[hosepipe]

[ My questions is "Why?" Why are Bush and company doing this?! ]

Exactely.. 180 degress out from their own partys benefit..
Unless that is the plan?.. Occams Razor demands that it is "the Plan"..

[Edgar3]

All you people ever do is bitch, bitch bitch. Same exact post over and over and over and over. No matter the issue, the SAME exact whining. Gee why waste our time? We all ready KNOW what your position is going to be before the issue even comes up. The ONLY difference between you and the Dems is what you bitch about. That both you and they are just going to endlessly bitch what ever the GOP does is all ready known by us. Preaching mindlessly to the Whine All The Time choir does ONE thing, bore the rest of us to distraction

If you would actually look at my posts, dating back to early 2001, you would see that your accusation is off. But then again, you would probably think that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Ben Franklin, et al were constant bitchers too.
Seriously though, thank you for your service to our country, Johnnie. You're a good American.

[taxed2death]

"My questions is "Why?" Why are Bush and company doing this?!"

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My personal feeling is that it is driven by pure greed. Follow the money. Who (which lobbyists) are actively paying the Pubs (and Dum-o-crats for that matter) to see to it that this country is stockpiled with "cheap" labor.

If you imagine there is a "scale" and sovereignty is on one side...and socialism is on the other side....we are definitely at the "tipping point". Instead of this scale listing 15 degrees to port or 15 degrees to starboard...it is now ready to roll over.

My point about the 10 ton elephant tiptoeing around the oval office is that people like MHJohnnie while his heart is in the right place...still refuse to see the obvious. If GWB grants these people a "pathway to citizenship" this number of people multiplied by 16 will absolutely be the demise of the Republican party. Any sane person who steps back from the nonsense, screaming and name calling in these threads and takes a reasoned look at these figures simply can not deny it.

I do not believe there is one answer to why GWB is so insistent on selling our sovereignty...it appears like there are many forces at play.

Could this be the way to save the ultimate Ponzi scheme of social security?

Who knows...it sure seems like an all or nothing proposition though....wouldn't you agree?


Another really big issue to consider is this:
Can you imagine if the borders are not secured what will happen in 10 years?

AFTER we have made these people "legal"...AFTER they have begun to import more people who are largely unschooled and are only suitable for the most menial of jobs....what happens when 15 million, or 20 million MORE illegals stroll in across our border?
If there is no border enforcement...and if there is no workplace / employment enforcement. These people we we will soon be granting "amnesty" to , will be without jobs....

They will be replaced by the new group of illegals coming across. Can you begin to fathom the strain on social services / schooling / housing / hospitals/ prisons...all of which are paid for by the taxpayer. Our tax rate will shoot right past that of the UK and the worst of the Uro-peee-on socialist crap-holes.

It is for this reason that in MY OPINION....it really does not matter who occupies the white house in the next term....IF this SHAMNESTY is made into law. There will be such a tidal wave of humanity piled on to the backs of American tax payers that we're not likely to be able to come up for air. Ever. I feel sorry for those hard core b-bots....they can't see the forest because of the trees.

[brytlea]

Why are you so fascinated with us? ;)
susie

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[MEGoody]

Spending on border security would come under the heading of SUPPOSED to.

You can bet your boots someone would complain about it though.

[MEGoody]

And BTW, you build that wall well enough, and you really won't need to hire all that many more border guards.

You and I think this is a great idea. I'm sure we would both agree there'd be many in this country who would have a hissy fit. Doesn't matter what a President does, there are people who are going to be ticked off.

Agree or disagree, at least Bush isn't driven by polls, but by what he thinks is the right thing to do.

[brytlea]

LOL someone will always complain! ;)
susie

[nonliberal]

I agree. I have no quarrel with Bush's character. I think he would be a fun guy to go out and have a beer with but that does not mean that he has not seriously damaged this country.

[krunkygirl]

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

Your characterization of the illegals who are here, and the millions upon millions more who are poised to come, is, I think, correct: unschooled, unskilled people who will ultimately be a huge drain on our tax payer supported social, "entitlement" programs.
I have heard several people on at least two recent talk shows say that studies(I cannot quote who or what studies) show that, contrary to what some have said, these illegals, and their hangers-on family members, WILL NOT save or delay the imperiled Social Security system. Quite the contrary.
So, that arguement can be completely shot down.

The other reality seems to me to be that this will give the Democrats control of the country for forever. I don't see how it can be any other way.

Like you, I cannot fathom how Bush supporters of his recent proposal fail to see that.

How does President Bush fail to see that?
What America does he want his daugthers and their children to live in?!

I just do not understand it.

[grey_whiskers]

Regan understood how to use incremental ism, all you people know how to do is cry because you don't only get 100% of what you want right NOW.

Umm, Johnnie. The incrementalism is in the *wrong* direction.

And it is much more than merely incremental.

When was the last time you saw the Senate fly directly in the face of the wishes of 65-70% of the electorate, across party lines?

[grey_whiskers]

yet they are being allowed to articulate the tone (hatefilled rhetoric) and agenda of the Republican party.

You are a troll.