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Montenegro 'chooses independence'
BBC News Website ^ | 5/21/06 | BBC

Posted on 05/21/2006 1:21:19 PM PDT by lump in the melting pot

Montenegro has voted for independence from its union with Serbia, according to unofficial projections. If confirmed, the vote would erase the last vestige of the former Yugoslavia.

Initial indications are that 56.3% of voters elected to secede from Serbia. The pro-independence bloc needs to win 55% of the vote to succeed.

The question of independence has deeply divided Montenegro, with its opponents arguing that it will damage economic, family and political ties with Serbia.


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1 posted on 05/21/2006 1:21:20 PM PDT by lump in the melting pot
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To: lump in the melting pot
Predictable, really. The final consequences to the vicious policies that Milosevic began in 1989, may he burn in hell.

Montenegro has been independent during most of its history anyhow. It would be nice if they restored the Montenegrin Crown, but I doubt that will happen.

The 'Green' Montenegrins finally won (the 'Greens' were against union with Serbia following WW I). A 100 years passes and we're back to the way things were in 1914 (partly at least).

2 posted on 05/21/2006 1:26:53 PM PDT by Al Simmons (Four-time Bush Voter 1994-2004!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Al Simmons
You seem somewhat familiar with the politics in this region. Can I ask if you (or other freepers) want to speculate about what, if anything, this might mean for other open questions in that area, like the status of Kosovo?
3 posted on 05/21/2006 1:29:38 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

Kosovo is only in question to those who have chosen to stick their heads in the sand - it's all over except for the crying, regardless of what happens in Montenegro.


4 posted on 05/21/2006 1:40:00 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: lump in the melting pot

If the Ethnic Mexicans ever achieve the level of success of the Ethnic Albanians, all of North America is doomed.


5 posted on 05/21/2006 1:41:51 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: lump in the melting pot
Montenegro Revolver, circa 1880s (with holster rig)
6 posted on 05/21/2006 1:48:09 PM PDT by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Hoplite
Kosovo is only in question to those who have chosen to stick their heads in the sand.

Well it's also a question for those of us who haven't been paying attention to the news from that region. I think your comments indicate that Kosovo will be breaking away from Serbia, or that they have already done so. Am I reading you correctly?

7 posted on 05/21/2006 1:54:28 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark
those of us who haven't been paying attention

Point taken.

Kosovo has already been broken away from Serbia - when NATO displaced Serbian forces in June of '99. Ever since then, the K-Albanians and the international community have been working towards making Kosovo's de facto independence from Belgrade de jure.

8 posted on 05/21/2006 2:22:29 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Thanks for the background.

Kosovo has been off my radar screen for many years. But I know some people who are deploying there soon, and that makes me more interested in getting caught up with the news.

9 posted on 05/21/2006 2:28:15 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark
No sweat - you can follow what the Contact Group is saying here, what NATO is saying here, and the US Army's Kosovo unit page is here.

And just for general purpose given the topic of this thread, here is CEMI's (Montenegro's Center for Monitoring) Referendum Page, in English, no less.

10 posted on 05/21/2006 2:44:34 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

Congrats to Montenegro.


11 posted on 05/21/2006 2:45:18 PM PDT by Diocletian (visit www.speakeasy.invisionzone.com - it's new and it's pretty silly)
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To: Diocletian
Some fat lady just told me not to let you tabulate the chickens until she sings about the eggs hatching.

= )

12 posted on 05/21/2006 2:52:43 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Al Simmons

We have property in Montenegro and all I know is the government is hindering us from selling it. It's been very frustrating.


13 posted on 05/21/2006 3:19:21 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hoplite

If they're all roosting at home count away!


14 posted on 05/21/2006 3:19:22 PM PDT by Joey Silvera
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To: Al Simmons; lump in the melting pot; All

"Predictable, really. The final consequences to the vicious policies that Milosevic began in 1989, may he burn in hell."

Yeah, but also due to Djukanovic's greed. He basically wants a country of his own-not because he cares about Montenegrin freedom or self-determination- but so he can pursue his own "business" arrangements. Milosevic's policies helped him out in a big way. The only thing Milo Djukanovic cares about is Milo Djukanovic, and he probably thanked God that Milosevic was around so he could increase support for independence.


15 posted on 05/21/2006 4:05:39 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (L. Ron Hubbard was a fake, a liar, a crook, and a piece of crap.)
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To: Al Simmons; lump in the melting pot; All

BTW, Montenegro has only a little over *600,000* people. Can a modern independent country survive with so small a population? Especially since Montenegrins in the northern and eastern parts are considerings seceding from Montenegro and joining Serbia if independence succeeds.


16 posted on 05/21/2006 4:23:20 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (L. Ron Hubbard was a fake, a liar, a crook, and a piece of crap.)
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To: Old Professer

This is not an immigration thread. Stop trying to be a thread hijacker.


17 posted on 05/21/2006 4:24:58 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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To: Jacob Kell
BTW, Montenegro has only a little over *600,000* people. Can a modern independent country survive with so small a population?

It certainly seems so.

Cyprus, Bahrain, Luxembourg, Malta, Bahama, Iceland, Belize, Barbados, Andorra, Liechtenstein, and Monaco are some examples.

18 posted on 05/21/2006 11:53:46 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: Al Simmons

This is actually great news for Serbia.


19 posted on 05/22/2006 4:01:28 AM PDT by Tamodaleko
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To: COEXERJ145

Your concern is appreciated.


20 posted on 05/22/2006 8:32:53 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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