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I'm sticking with Bush. Bush remains world's best hope
Calgary Sun ^ | May 21, 2006 | Paul Jackson

Posted on 05/21/2006 12:53:53 AM PDT by FairOpinion

President George W. Bush strides across the world stage as much as the U.S. dominates the world's stage.

This is very good news for those of us who still believe in decency and democracy.

So forget what some slanted opinion polls say about the leadership of the 43rd president and his patriot countrymen.

Recall, Sir Winston Churchill was once one of the most detested men in Britain, then went on to save the free world.

That's Churchill's undisputed legacy.

In another era it may be Bush's legacy, too.

This past week, Australian Prime Minister John Howard, one of America's strongest allies, was in Washington on a state visit.

He was hailed by one and all in the nation's capital.

Later, Howard was in Ottawa to visit America's latest allies, Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the newly elected Conservative government of Canada.

And we all know British Prime Minister Tony Blair is also one of Bush's -- and America's -- strongest allies.

Bush and America have many other allies throughout the world, too, although to read the nauseating Lib-Left news media, one would get the impression Bush is a pariah and America a rogue state.

Well, would you rather have the likes of Communist China, Communist North Korea, or Communist Cuba soldiering the world?

How about Middle East sheikdoms such as Iran, Libya, or Yemen running the show.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has already let it be known when his nation gets its hands on nuclear weapons he will use them against the Western democracies.

North Korea's president Kim Jong-il boasts he already has nuclear weapons and is building intercontinental ballistic missiles to carry them to western countries.

Back in the 1960s, Castro tried to install Soviet missiles on his island nation aimed at Canada and the U.S.

Do you honestly believe Bush, Blair, Howard and the like do not have a duty to safeguard us against these types.

Or would you rather have a stack of African dictatorships in charge -- nations ravaged by tribal warfare with their hands constantly out for billions of dollars in western aid that invariably is used to build luxurious palaces and deposited in secretive Swiss banks.

Vladimir Putin's Russia is a mess -- democracy there is in danger -- and old Soviet-style hawks want to take it back to the days of Stalinism.

Many of its non-Eastern European vassal states are in a mess, too, governed by local chieftains.

In Latin America bullies such as Venezuela's Hugo Chavez are on the rise.

Their hero, Fidel Castro, lives in luxury while his people continue to live under decades of food rationing.

India and Pakistan -- always at each other's throats, and courtesy of past Canadian Liberal regimes loaded with nuclear missiles -- pose a constant threat to that part of the world.

In Italy, we just lost Silvio Berlusconi, one of Bush's and America's best friends, in favour of left-winger Romano Ponti, and we don't know where he stands on preserving the international rule of law.

In Spain, when the Conservative government of Jose Maria Aznar fell, and Socialist Jose Zapatero came into power, the Spanish quickly capitulated to Islamic terrorist blackmail.

Thankfully, NATO and Norad are still holding together, and some perceptive Europeans leaders are even talking about a missile shield against rogue nations similar to the one proposed by Bush and rejected by weak-kneed types such as the Jean Chretien/Paul Martin Liberals.

Gutless, every one of them.

Talk about 21st century Neville Chamberlains!

So we're left basically with Bush, Blair and Howard and whatever smaller nations such as freed Soviet slave states in the European Union can pull together.

Yes, we've all read in the midst of this international war on terror that Bush has slipped this month to an all-time low in opinion polls at just 29%.

But recall that back in 1951 during another war on terror -- the attempt to prevent Josef Stalin's hordes from advancing into Western Europe and the all-out effort to save South Korea from advancing Communist North Korean forces, backed by Red China -- Democratic President Harry Truman fell to 23% in the polls.

The anti-America mobs can howl all they like, but I'm sticking with Bush, Blair, Howard and other true leaders of the western democracies.

I hope you are, too.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Canada; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1firstkeyword; baselessbase; blair; bush; elephanteatsownhead; europe; harrytruman; howard; msmborg; pollslaves; reactionarybase; sirwinstonchurchill; speakerpelosi; staythecourse; terrorism; vote3rdpartytards; whatwouldreagando; world; wot
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To: ohioWfan
No more conversation, ray. The facts are there for everyone to see. I don't need to say more, and I choose not to.

Well, I held out an olive branch and you chose to knock it from my hand. It shows me that you are not really interested in healing this 'relationship' but rather, failing to make me completely reverse my opinion on some of Bush's policies, you walk away. Better check your heart for honesty, as well.

341 posted on 05/21/2006 7:09:41 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!!!)
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To: Gondring

"but it should explain why our president is not offended as the marchers denounce our nation and desecrate our flag."

That's a complete mischaracterization of anything Bush has ever said. You can disagree with his immigration policies, but don't demonize him.


342 posted on 05/21/2006 7:10:07 PM PDT by Annie5622 (Democrats DO have a plan! They apparently plan to stay stupid.)
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To: FairOpinion

Nice Post.

The current attacks on the President from the Right are nothing new. Lincoln also had severe critics during the war.

It will be interesting to see who on this forum cheers 'Rat victories in November and laments Republican victories. Hint: Those who love to use the term RINO will be most cheered by 'Rat victories.


343 posted on 05/21/2006 7:10:18 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: raybbr
You came out of the woodwork to post this? What has he ever struggled with? Seriously? He grew up in a wealthy family and never wanted for anything. He doesn't have to pay a mortgage and worry about bills. He probably never has had to worry about those things. He has probably had help with raising his children using nannies and housekeepers. Really, what struggles has he had? How can he possibly relate to the average American

That is from your post 268. It is derisive and ad hominem, and simply oozes derision. I don't have to know your heart when your posts display what's in it so readily.

I'd say you would do well to put away the anger for a while, step back and take a few breaths.

Another deity heard from?

That was derisive too......and I don't have to know anything about your relationship to God to know that either.

344 posted on 05/21/2006 7:14:19 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
Try going back a lot further for the posts between us. OhioWfan has called me names for a long time. That was a re-awakening of a past tension.

Get your facts straight before butting in.

345 posted on 05/21/2006 7:17:07 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!!!)
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To: raybbr
I have apologized for my part in this argument. Nothing of that nature has come from you.

No olive branch has been extended. Only excuses for unacceptable behavior (which you obviously still feel is part of rational debate). No more, ray. It's over.

346 posted on 05/21/2006 7:17:22 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Gondring
I will have to say that this is the first time I have heard of anything like this. You don't really have compelling evidence, you know.

I will keep an open mind.

347 posted on 05/21/2006 7:23:41 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: raybbr
Beg pardon, but perhaps you need to simply apologize. I showed you your own derisive statements and then you try to change the subject and say something akin to "Waaaaaah, OhioWfan did it too".

My facts are straight, you are being hateful and derisive.

Her story may be the same, but I wasn't addressing her. I was addressing you.

348 posted on 05/21/2006 7:24:15 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Gondring

Thank you.


349 posted on 05/21/2006 7:25:03 PM PDT by Maximus_Ridiculousness
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To: You Dirty Rats

"Those who love to use the term RINO will be most cheered by 'Rat victories."

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Makes you wonder who are the real RINO-s around here, doesn't it?


350 posted on 05/21/2006 7:25:15 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Lakeshark
Beg pardon, but perhaps you need to simply apologize. I showed you your own derisive statements and then you try to change the subject and say something akin to "Waaaaaah, OhioWfan did it too".

No it is not. You don't know anything about the attacks she made against me. I tried to 'turn the other cheek' but it got slapped too. So, take your judgementalism elsewhere.

351 posted on 05/21/2006 7:28:45 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!!!)
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To: Miss Marple

Miss Marple, are you or any of your immediate relatives in the reserves?


352 posted on 05/21/2006 7:29:11 PM PDT by Maximus_Ridiculousness
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To: ohioWfan
And, I admit, I chose to push your buttons. For that I apologize.

I guess you don't fully read the posts, then.

#324

353 posted on 05/21/2006 7:30:54 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!!!)
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To: ohioWfan
All I'm going on is what you've said on this thread. So far you've quoted polls, an AP article and talked about wondering if Kerry wouldn't have been a better choice than Bush.

Now, let's presume you have a rational thought process which hasn't yet been exhibited on this thread.

Ouch! I guess that's supposed to leave a mark. LOL! Nice try at twisting what I've posted.

You seem to have the basic GOP talking points down but you haven't shown me any proof that you actually read or analyze anything. You would rather satisfy yourself by continuing to accuse me of lacking rational thought. In my estimation, you are either a GOP political hack or a grade school teacher. The nanny state thought processes are similar.

And since when did bringing up an AP post with a quote indicate a cart blanc endorsement of media polls. Like it or not it was merely another example of a potential incongruence in what Bush has said or done. Just because the media reported it doesn't mean it can never be true. Besides, the entire concept of Freerepublic is based upon posting news and commenting on news by others.

And because you are, you ignore his support of the military, his successful war on terror, his incredbily bouyant tax cut driven economy, his stance for the sanctity of life AND his strong originalist Supreme Court choices.

A ridiculous comment. I never said I negated or ignored any of it. As for you calling yourself a real conservative and me a liberal; you are precisely what is wrong with the current GOP. No room for the right; only room for centrist and moderates like yourself; then call anyone who disagrees a liberal because you con't know what else to call them. In your mind you may be a "rational thinking conservative" but I think you are a GOP camp follower without original thought. Free thinking is what sets true conservatives apart from the pseudos.

The bottom line is Bush and the current Senate GOP Eunuchs have done more in the last 60 days to piss off the true conservative base than anything the dems or the laimstream media could do in 10 years. Bush's blind ambition for amnesty is nullifying everthing he has accomplished since 2001. The public doesn't want it and it has given the Democrats the one key issue which has divided us. The fact that you and the GOP establishment choose to ignore it is THE PROBLEM! True conservatives seek principle based politicians and government. Not keeping the seat warm for a RINO just because he's better than the other guy.

354 posted on 05/21/2006 7:32:02 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: raybbr
No I don't know what she said earlier. That was never my point.

Her story is her story, you are the one I'm talking to about your derisiveness. So far, that's all I've seen, not one bit of cheek turning.

Just cool off and think about it, it would be good for you.

355 posted on 05/21/2006 7:34:39 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: suijuris

"True conservatives seek principle based politicians and government."


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Like Hillary? That's whom you are helping by working against the GOP.


356 posted on 05/21/2006 7:36:14 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness
I do. Army National Guard.

His unit all seems to be pretty happy, I have talked with dozens of them.

357 posted on 05/21/2006 7:37:30 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: raybbr
I apologize for missing that line. Apology accepted. Good bye, ray.

I'm not going to look at the ping you gave me on the other thread (whatever it was about).

If I want to read Bush bashing articles, I'll stick with the New York Times or check out what Howard Dean has to say.

Now leave me alone. I will read no more pings from you.

358 posted on 05/21/2006 7:47:15 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: suijuris
There is no way I'm going to read all of that suey.

You've already made your point. You believe the AP. You believe polls. And you're thinking that John Kerry would have made a better President.

Nothing else you ever say will have any value.

I'm a conservative..........time to conserve my time, and not read any more you have to say. :)

359 posted on 05/21/2006 7:49:03 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: Maximus_Ridiculousness; mystery-ak
My son is a proud veteran of Iraqi Freedom in the U.S. Army Reserves, and he is as proud now as he has ever been to serve under this Commander in Chief in the War on Terror.

mystery-ak's husband and son are in the Army National Guard.

360 posted on 05/21/2006 7:51:01 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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