Posted on 05/19/2006 1:24:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
HOUSTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush has long opposed making English the country's national language, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said on Friday, the day after the Senate voted to do so.
The vote came in an amendment to proposed legislation overhauling U.S. immigration law and directed the government to "preserve and enhance" the role of English. Opponents said it could affect the status of some multilingual services offered by government organizations.
Adding to the confusion, the Senate also adopted a softer amendment calling English the "unifying language" of the United States. Senators take both versions into negotiations over a final bill with the U.S. House of Representatives.
Gonzales did not directly address Bush's position on the controversial amendment because the Senate has not yet voted on the whole bill. But he said that Bush has in the past rejected such efforts.
"The president has never supported making English the national language," Gonzales said after meeting with state and local officials in Texas to discuss cooperation on enforcement of immigration laws.
He said Bush has instead long supported a concept called "English-Plus," believing that it was good to be proficient in more than one language.
"English represents freedom in our country and anybody who wants to be successful in our country has a much better chance of doing so if they speak English," Gonzales said. "It is of course a common language."
But, Gonzales said, "I don't see the need to have laws or legislation that says English is the national language."
While visiting Arizona on Thursday to press his plan to send up to 6,000 National Guard troops to the Mexican border spoke of the need to unite Americans.
"We've got to honor the great American tradition of the melting pot," Bush said. "Americans are bound together by shared ideals and appreciation of our history, of respect for our flag and ability to speak the English language."
Intervening in a recent furor over a Spanish-language version of the national anthem released by Latin pop stars, Bush said that the "Star-Spangled Banner" should be sung in English.
The United States currently has no official language and the amendment was showing signs of further inflaming an already incendiary issue, with Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada calling it "racist."
Great thread, Norm. Thanks for posting this.
The sad part is that I was for a life time a loyal member, supporter (both in time and money) of the GOP, and still voter for GOP candidates. Unfortunately it really has come down to voting for the lessor of two evils at national level.
Hope your golf game improves. Mine stinx and more than likely always will.
Funny you would post this. I've mused more than once, lately, over the fact that McCain always brags that he is a Teddy Roosevelt Republican. I'm not so certain Teddy would be a Republican these days with his environemental leanings.
From a friend of a friend...........MUST READ
The following from a director with XXXXXX in Mexico City.
I spent five years working in Mexico.
I worked under a tourist visa for three months and could legally renew it for three more months. After that you were working illegally. I was technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval.
During that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to secure a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country. XXXXX was the same except hers did not permit her to work.
To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized originals (not copies) of my:
1. Birth certificates for XXXXX and me.
2. Marriage certificate.
3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation.
4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of graduation.
5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at least one year.
6. A letter from The XXXXXX Chief of Police indicating I had no arrest record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen in good standing."
7. Finally; I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why there was no Mexican citizen with my skills and why my skills were important to Mexico. We called it our "I am the greatest person on earth" letter. It was fun to write.
All of the above were in English that had to be translated into Spanish and be certified as legal translations and our signatures notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on the left side and Spanish on the right.
Once they were completed XXXXXX and I spent about five hours accompanied by a Mexican attorney touring Mexican government office locations and being photographed and fingerprinted at least three times. At each location (and we remember at least four locations) we were instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences.
We could not protest any of the government's actions or we would be committing a felony. We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could legally bring in our household goods that were held by US customs in Loredo Texas. This meant we rented furniture in Mexico while awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees involved here that the company paid.
We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates and under contract and compliance with Mexican law.
We were required to get a Mexican drivers license. This was an amazing process. The company arranged for the licensing agency to come to our headquarters location with their photography and finger print equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license, were photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road. Our only instruction was never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back.
We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the number of our FM3 as our ID number. The companies Mexican accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared. I was about twenty legal size pages annually.
The FM 3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after paying more fees.
Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants, tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs.
It was a real adventure and If any of our senators or congressmen went through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico.
The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to keep its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at their White House or government offices but do protest daily in front of the United States Embassy. The US embassy looks like a strongly reinforced fortress and during most protests the Mexican Military surround the block with their men standing shoulder to shoulder in full riot gear to protect the Embassy. These protests are never shown on US or Mexican TV. There is a large public park across the street where they do their protesting. Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in California or Texas.
Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being hard on illegal immigrants
Well, he damn sure wouldn't be a Democrat. I think Teddy would still be a Republican today, and he would be fighting with the Republicans who want to secure our border first and then determine how many immigrants this country needs. I don't think the Democrats would have any use for leaders who hold the views expressed below:
The term "hyphenated American" was popularized in the 1910s by President Theodore Roosevelt, responding to the increasing fractionalization within the nation along ethnic lines. In an October 12, 1915 speech to the Knights of Columbus, Roosevelt said, __"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all. ...
The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic. ...
There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else." __"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." _
"Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or to leave the country," he said in a statement to the Kansas City Star in 1918. "English should be the only language taught or used in the public schools." __
He also insisted, on more than one occasion, that America has no room for what he called "fifty-fifty allegiance." In a speech made in 1917 he said, "It is our boast that we admit the immigrant to full fellowship and equality with the native-born. In return we demand that he shall share our undivided allegiance to the one flag which floats over all of us."
__There is no place for the hyphen in our citizenship... We are a nation, not a hodge-podge of foreign nationalities. We are a people, and not a polyglot boarding house. __-
Follow-up to yesterday's initial article..
Attorney General in "linguistic snare" over English ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1635537/posts
Perhaps. But there are too many others that cannot be so summarily dismissed. Else why all the uproar from not only conservatives, but some standard issue Republicans as well? What started as a whisper is now far too loud to ignore. You may disagree, but that's the way conservatives see it.
"I do not recall anyone else using the word "disgrace" in reference to GOP leadership, so I'm wondering if you know of something specific and new that is a disgrace in your view."
Really. Well, I've heard far worse. I have nothing for you that is specific and new. Rather, for me it is an accumulation of issues which culminated in the current immigration mess. And the GOP "leadership" on this issue alone is a disgrace.
"I'm interested in your reply and whether you actually have a reply."
This is it.
"Please enlighten all of us "Bushbots."
The party-above-principle Big Tent GOP/RNC loyalists (aka "Bushbots") don't want to be enlightened. Their minds are just as made up as are those of loyal American conservatives. In other words, I'm not going to persuade you to change your mind and you certainly won't change mine.
I think his problem over all is he is just flat the most stubborn man alive........
Well, I stand corrected -- then how in the heck can John Mc claim to be a TR Republican and then be against the English only ammendment this week?
I hope everyone is e-mailing their senators and reps to have their voices heard. We need to make sure that these people GET the MESSAGE..Dems and Republicans alike! This is an urgent matter. Amnesty for MILLIONS is at stake!
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I’m new to this site and you are my first correspondence, private or public. I was reading along fairly well until I came to your post; then I was baffled. Frankly, I do not understand how the poster above your own expressed that CNN reported the Bush was ‘for’ an English-speaking bill, and seemingly was ignored. I too have heard that in fact, Bush was for this bill, and I do not watch CNN nor do I visit their online site.
I will quote President Bush for you, “I believe that person should pay a meaningful fine, pay their taxes, learn English, p…” “Americans are bound together by shared ideals and appreciation of our history, of respect for our flag and ability to speak the English language”, “And part of that assimilation process is English. I believe this: If you learn English, and…”
Regarding your remark about Republicans being “Marxists”, I am puzzled! I wonder if you know what Marxism is, or if you just like the name calling and labeling that is "all the rage" at the moment. I do not see any real correlation between Bush’s policies and Marxist’s rule.
Fact be told, I do not see any real need for anyone to be disrespectful, nor do I see the need for anyone to put himself or herself above another person – as has been the common in the last several years…
Disrespect and name calling in the face of ignorance by the people on any given subject is not helping one bit. The only thing that this sort of behavior does is create a more hateful group of egocentric people who have no idea what it takes or how much work it is to run an entire country – especially in the face of people who are constantly antagonistic – while - you are attempting to run an entire country.
It you think about it with some perspective, (another tool seemingly lost in our people as of late), you would be able to see that such trashing is completely counterproductive and it is creating a more hostile, non-productive society of entitled people, (those sorts that everyone is bothered by when around them - yet, they are that same people who feel and act and relate that very same way. I find it sad that so many are so egocentic and believe to their guts that merely they were lucky enough to be born here and not to some mom in Siberia, they are entitled to what ever they wish, at the time they wish it and to hell with anyone else. I would think those babies born in places like Siberia should feel more like they need a break than the spoiled rotten people in the states who have so much and still get their feathers in an uproar when their temper tantrum expressed needs are not met.
I cannot say I understand any part of the last half of your post, or, I would certainly try to answer your request. However, with your final statement about ‘not giving a whit’ and ‘you may have a leg to stand on’ – are not very attractive as a whole. I cannot imagine someone who publicly announces their intolerance of other’s opinions while giving his/her own – saying in essence that they do not care and then adding a touch of pompousness to the pot by challenging others as it they “better be really great with their opinions or facts” in order to persuade you to change your mind. Why would anyone want to take that on? Are your opinions so much that one should seek that honor of having you listen to another’s opinion as long as it qualifies? (I am just curious – your post is, as I explained, very baffling).
Yes I do know what Marxism is, I know what socialism is as well as communism. Perhaps I could just call the Republicans socialists. A little less outragious sounding?
What does speaking english have to do with being a actual real breathing conservative? Nothing, any person with a brain and a little knowledge of history knows that a country will not survive if divided by language. God forced the people to spread out through the world at the Tower of Babel.
I am past the point of tolerating socialism in this Country. The Boston Tea Party was started because of a miniscule tax. There were other things going on at the time to be sure, but people we now call patriots and founders of this Country would not stand for 99% of what is happening in this country. They would be the ones stockpiling arms and getting thrown in jail by our benevolent government. All in the name of " the war on (fill in the blank" I call it more the war on the people. I truly believe in a Free Republic.Decisive? Fine, I don't care. Now can you show me where our congress has done something really conservative.
It really makes you appreciate Ronald Reagan's achievement in bringing such disparate groups together.Of course magazines like National Review were constantly criticizing him throughout his presidency, and I'm guessing if Free Republic had existed then, he would have had his share of detracters on it just as President Bush does, some of whom would call him a communist, a socialist and no better than the democrats. Then, as now, they would have been wrong.
Quoting President Bush on Speaking English,
“I believe that person should pay a meaningful fine, pay their taxes, learn English,…” “Americans are bound together by shared ideals and appreciation of our history, of respect for our flag and ability to speak the English language”, “And part of that assimilation process is English. I believe this: If you learn English, and…”
Truth be told, I do not see any real need for anyone to be disrespectful, nor do I see the need for anyone to put himself or herself above another person – as has been the common in the last several years… It seems as if those who have made it and are making it now, their soul purpose in life for the moment, to bring down the president and an entire party, (on the taxpayer's dime), are beginning to affect more than merely the weakest among us.
Disrespect and name calling in the face of what truly is massive ignorance by the people on any given subject is not helping one bit. The only thing that this sort of behavior does is create a more hateful group of egocentric people who really have no idea what it takes or how much work it is to run an entire country – especially in the face of people who are constantly on the warpath attempting to beat you down – while - you are making every effort to run that entire country. So many people on both sides of the fence speak and act as if they somehow 'got him pegged' - no matter what he says or does, it makes no difference to them.
One only has to sit back and reflect on this to know that the motivations that drive these pompous 'holier than thou' people have little to do with the country and it's welfare & everything to do with their own selfishness. Sure, it's much prettier to try to impress in others that you are in it all for the sake of a country you love, but that's a dishonest statement that only dishonest people (who are on this egocentric bashing and hate fest or fad) believe. I say believe because many justify their appalling behavior by proclaiming their motives are something that clearly they are not - but perhaps have convinced themselves that they are.
Don't call it "freedom of speech" because one does not have to include the vial personal attacks, hateful remarks and hold that childish bully mentality to present their facts - facts that they rarely get to in their process of "speaking freely". There is some sort of conceited and insulting notion in people who present their thoughts, (if you can call them thoughts), as if theirs are the supreme ones, no matter how ignorant they may truly be - they honestly do not care. 'The end justifies the means' - so their means are right - no matter that they are not ethical, responsible, truthful, thoughtful, meaningful or no matter who the hurt or who they take down - it's all okay.
"To hell with anyone else, they are all idiots - and if they do not subscribe my truth, (no matter how thwarted their truths may be), then they are complete & total morons". One only need to open their eyes for a fraction of a second to see this mentality all over the place... and it's ludicrous! No one knows the 'truth', for example, of who our president is inside, as a person. Yet they question his motives, put him down for chocking on a pretzel, believe a party that is so desperate to win, they would seemingly eat anyone's first born to win - and pretend to know & have the gall to judge if he is evil or not evil.
This whole past few years is like an incredible game of telephone, gone bad. Because even if the first person in the game tells you and the world that in fact he said, "The pie was great" - by the time you heard the line, "I try but hate" repeated over and over again, you won't believe the original line had anything to do with pie. And the more people repeating the hate line, the more varied in the ways that you hear the hate line & the more times you hear it over the months or years, the more true it becomes, (human nature). Even if the original person comes out and proclaims that he in fact said, "the pie was great" - he won't be believed... (and he is the one who started the game). It's too late, people are conditioned to know he is a liar, a liar who really does not try, who hates intensely, who has evil motives, who has tricks to hurt you personally and will be the destruction of the world - and can never be redeemed nor escape from his "Hitler" existence. In your mind, he is using the pie to cover up for the evil person he is - there is no pie!
As for the "victims" of their own self educed pride over their loses in the last presidential campaign - those who did not have or use their adult coping skills to 'get over it' and move on in a healthy 'helpful' way, have a new goal. They escape their intense pride that they refuse to face, by feeding their egos and setting out to "show the world" that they in fact did not lose the election to Bush - Bush tweaked the elections! They attempt to prove that he is unfit, a criminal, he lied, is evil, spies on regular Joes, has a low IQ, (which did go around the internet in a spoof IQ study that only the hard ups for pride running would believe... fact is, it's higher than Kerry's and he was proclaimed to be smart.. -- though in college, he was on academic probation for F's with some D's) and is a horrid evil man with horrid evil motives and they are all right because "they did not vote for him" "they were right".
Hogwash... And that stuff spreads, the telephone game continues and more and more people are drawn in - if for nothing else, but that 'everyone' believes it... and in the end, the true bad wins and the people believe, slowly but surely, that the Satan's right hand man doesn't even know how to spell pie, and did in fact, 110%, say "I try but hate". This has created a general knowledge that there is no pie, those pride runners were right, the desperation of a party who has not won in years and years, are right, and just by the massive amounts of game players - the stronger who should know better jump in too. No one wants to be left out of the fun, bashing party fad of the century.
And know one knows shyt about who he is, and they tell us all who he is all the time; call names, disrespect, mock, put down him - his wife - his twins - his life - his wife's intent - his every single every thing -- and spout the crap out as loud as they can and all while this president is trying to run the country... as if all of the people in the USA know all about his job and could all do it better and bush is NOT a person with feelings and they can care less if he was.
That is the country you are all contributing to, that's the behavior you are all fighting to preserve and you are all those egocentrics who think Bush is some concept and not a good man who is trying. Shame on all of you conceits.
So you take on that roll of discrediting and basically, making his job as hard as you can possible make it and maybe, those people who have done nothing for the country but to make us miserable, will run it. Those who have so little or nothing to offer - will be the ones to give... and it will be your fault...
To hell with the country, (see, people do NOT care about the country at all, but their party, sure, --- well, at least the democrats care about their party!) In the face of war, and in light of the complex, multi-task, unbelievable high pressured position that we put him in, you sit around in your entitled life and call home names and put him down.. you do so much for your country, remember, that country you are all pretending to love so much?
The fact that our economy has not been this good in over 3 decades - means nothing.
The fact that our unemployment has never ever been lower on record anyway - means nada.
The fact that for the first time more people own homes than rent, nothing...
The fact that more black Americans purchased homes - 3 times more than any other president, is water off your backs
The fact that the extra income, unbudgeted, to the government, directly because of the strong economy, (this last quarter, for example, a huge huge huge 14+ percent... all in all better than any president recorded, means nothing
Fact: The president and economic advisors worked up a great plan of operation to bring the national debt down and have it cut in half by the year 2010 and possibly gone by as early as 2012, (even after 911, the two wars, the fact that well over half our budget is spent on mandatory spending, (those laws from past presidents who made an expenditure (or more), the law, and even set into the law the amounts of increases each year for their bills) the inherited recession, a country fighting against it's own, the fact we had shrunk the military down considerably each year, and our weapons, each year during Clintons 8 years in office etc)! This was incredible news, especially in light of the fact that we received refunds, (which stimulated the economy and gave us the opportunity to have more coming in... like a circle of circumstances complimenting one another) This all was going well, however, the costs for Katrina and other hurricanes came into play and the costs were and are huge! But, because of his economic plan for this country, and the fruit it is now showing, (a direct result, undeniably, of a good economic plan), the extra 14+ percent this last quarter, the 10% the one before etc., (been going on for 2.5 years -the outstanding results of a much more healthy economy), has led to the new official estimate for the debt to be cut in half --- the end of 2007. The national debt, if this upward and historical economy continues to be strong, will be covered and we will begin to be in the green, by 2009 or the start of 2010, (the year our children's children's children will be paying it off, as we are told so often by a an increasingly desperate party). (And if we do not inherits another democrat who will most certainly without doubt - raise taxes and cause more unemployment, less spending and a sinking economy - - people spend if they have it... places hire more people if they get more customers spending more money... more working and more spending create more income to the government -- but more taxes will turn it again, the other way, creating less ability to buy, less money to buy with because of the unemployment issues that come from companies who lay off employees because the consumers stopped spending. Then they create more welfare recipients and aid other aid costs like medicade etc. which bring our budget up and our taxes to pay for them up --- and we have even less to spend that we just had before they raised them at the start... and so more are laid off and more do not buy. Clinton's lack of debt was not a big mystery or a huge shining crown... but rather a refusal to give excess over-paid money back to the people claiming that the government knew how to deal with it better than those who worked their asrses off for it, his drastic cuts in the military and weapons over the years, his increased taxes, (first hit, as you may know, the middle class) etc.
NOTE, Fact: Bush taxes a lot more A LOT more on the richest Americans than Clinton did... Bush taxes the lowest earners, zippo, (unlike any other president) No big deal though.
The fact that our economy is finally again, the strongest in the entire world (3 times better than next in line) - no biggie huh?
Another fact is the average pay in America jumped up so far it became the 2nd biggest jump in our history, second only to the year following WWII, (and only by a fraction)... is just, what, expected? (hardly even close to expected, at least, by the experts, not meaning you all).
Bush had more EPA violation fines and company closures in his first two years than did the last president in his entire 8 years. (but no one is interested in that huh?)
FACT: The prescription program did go into effect and it is helping, (ask my parents or any one of the millions who get them for 1 - 2 bucks or the average American who uses it who saves $464.00 per year - oh, but who cares about them, they're just old people huh?
How about the fact that by far, bush has budgeted and spent more on boarder control, per capita, than any other and that has been to the tune of 66% more! (but who cares, the illiterate Hitler doesn't care about America and Americans YOU ALL DO! )
Under Bush, there have been huge upgrades and additions to Border Patrol efforts; upgraded equipment, infrastructure etc., The B.P. was at just under 9k and now it is 12,000, with a very recent addition of 20% more at Yuma, AZ, just out of training! (all without any notice, the media only covers things that would look badly on the administration, not those that would tend to make him look 'competent' - after all, every year is an election year!) Big Deal, huh?
FACT: New fencing has already been realized and more has been going up, as planned a whilie back, but again, not so much advertised... when folk are shrinking on any true subjects in which to attack their opposition, they get desperate for material. So each time the president does anything, they tell us it was bad... But who cares, screw the president right?
FACT: When virtually nothing has happened on our boarders for well over 16 years. by no president at all, this one had us see, (or media hid), the tons of cameras added, the abundance of lighting all along the heavy areas, some incredible technology is being added and has been; this will be the most technologically advanced border in the world, and under this president, but so the hell what?
The Border Patrol agents increases, the FACT that Bush has already placed troops there there, (the 6,000 National Guard he announced is an addition, not the sole number - the number now will be doubled when all 6,000 are deployed), have yielded a record 6-million illegal immigrants and drug smugglers while under Bush, since 2001 and with the additions to an otherwise non-functional program... something the media would never disclose. Last year, the agents in Yuma apprehended more than 70,000 illegal folk from Mexico, up another 15%, (all verified in fact, by my daughter's fiancé, who has been a border patrol officer for a few years now)
So far the National Guard already there, (and those to come), have installed high-tech fences in urban corridors and patrol roads and barriers in rural areas and motion sensors, infrared cameras, unmanned aerial vehicles... But Bush is a friend to Reid, as someone here claimed or insinuated?
Two successful, (regardless of the propaganda that most here seem to prefer over the truth), (no child left behind, which irate the teachers and administrators because they do not like having accountability to anyone, nor does the union who backs them typically and nearly 100% anti right), and the inner city program that has worked to get the same sort of educational benefits as those in the more affluent neighborhoods, are nothing to you all, right?
The prescription plan, which helped many people who could not afford medications, actually afford them now... something that no other president has put into place, nor done anything grand for the elderly and disabled... is only the start of bush's accomplishments in that area. This president has been able to raise their incomes and those on disability more than any president in years and years has. Inflation went up, say 4 percent, the disabled and elderly who paid into the program and count on it to live and support themselves on, would get a mere .5 percent, half a percent... If it went up 4.4 percent, maybe they would have a huge increase to 1.1 percent. Year after year, the recipients who made increasingly less money than they needed... i.e., the five years a person would depend on it, inflation would go up, (and expectedly too), 11.5 percent. In that same five years, the increases for the elderly and disabled would total maybe, 4.5 total. So the prices went up for them 7 percent without any help to reach that inflation rate... add another five years of the same, or worse, and the disable and those elderly people who trust and need to depend on that income, now have 14 percent increases in the costs of living - without any help - so they had to buy less, do without, and medication was the first they'd chop off, being that they had to have place to sleep and some food! With Bush's new prescription plan, making it possible to get one and two buck prescriptions, even non-generic ones, they can afford them, all of them, and have had increases that have substantially impacted those who were living so far below the poverty level... and making a great dent in catching those people's checks each month to the current rate and all without robbing the system to do so.
The fact that this president is addressing another big issue / problem, (immigration) is a good reason to have and show and express and dish out more contempt by the entitled and ungrateful people in this country, like many of you are handing out for Bush's disgraces?
Bush took on AQ, after AQ had been left to hit us 4 times AND declare war on us before he took office... he got the ilk out of AF, and the people have democracy... he faced what was not being dealt with, what was too unpopular to deal with... He is fighting terrorist, like we had not done before.... stopping their continued increasingly terrible attacks - getting worse each year, (although you would not recall), he has taken on school, accountability, given the max allowed to the research and dev. of alternatives fuels, he has taken on Social Security, which went though and is going thought likes all the time... .. though immigration and more.. He works despite of this self centered, egocentric bunch of know-it-alls who sit and judge him harshly every single day. He has had those records in the economy, in the budge, the school funding has been greater per capital than any in history... and on and on and on... while you make fun of his speaking English as wonderfully excellent as you all do.
I read from this country... stupid stuff like how he did not really joke on a pretzel, how he was prob. drunk, how he hates blacks, how he planted a bomb in the levy in N Orleans, how he spent too long reading to the children when 911 was happening, how he caters to big oil, pretty much anything and everything you are told is not only untrue, but very untrue. Like Moore's films, proven over and over to be 110% inaccurate, so is that 14 billion dollar big oil giveaway! That is prob. the biggest farce this last 5 years, nah, they are all desperate and illogical and I can even prove that last one is a big fat lie... can you?
Do you know things like the fact the prosecutor for Delay, (a very nice man, with low low poll ratings, who made a lot of difference in the last 20 years, (that's one reason he was targeted), who stopped a convention in TX when the news came in for the first time about Monica and Clinton, (which Hillary swore on TV was another untrue right wing conspiracy), led the people at the convention in prayer for him and to give him strength -because he know what he would be facing... And did you know that the prosecutor had been to 3 grand juries, a record, in one single week? - Or that all three of those grand juries were all made up with a liberal majority - all in effort to try to get a court to take Delay's case? Did you know these three, like the last, told him that there was no case, no evidence, and they would not take it - would not hear the case -- all three in that one week!?! Did you know that two democrat senators plead guilty to money fraud this year for the money associated with their senate campaigns involving far amount of money than Delay was accused of mishandling? More money, bigger scandals, and they are in office still - (and have far better ratings than Delay, which everyone does up on the hill. Through all his work, all his efforts, all his support and his NOT taking advantage for political gain the extra curricular affairs of Clinton in his hard times -- the people do not believe him, and most do not even know about the latest developments or the two democrat senators. The media and Americans found Delay guilty before a trial date.. The media spent over three months solid on convicting Delay and helping most people find him guilty of something that he had not been tried for - and as it turns out, will not be. That's justice - and that is the media doing a find find job - they made a great investment when they went after that attack full force huh? This 'scandal', prompted by the left, as have been many scandal - sounding 'events' that have yet proven, substantiated and many disproved, was a farce, the real deal, not even a back page event.. Those two that did do the crime in the senate, and even Leaky Leahy for that matter, the democrat who did leak classified info and did admit it and got 3 people killed because of his leak - all are in office, all have good poll numbers... even Hillary, maybe because she is a candidate hopeful for the left - and very protected by the media.. go figure.
There is a lot of work to be done for this country -- and those workers who are suppose to be working, being paid by the money we work for, our hard earned money is given to this group of thugs - who are making this country more miserable -- and are the good guys. While you bunch of babies are helping them do so. i am sick of paying money for these people to bring down the president and you should be too.
This whole past 5 - 6 years feels like the country filled up with a bunch of robotic judges, who on order of the media, (the media that polls tell us people do not trust as a whole), think as they are told to think, act as they are told to act, find guilt, find praise, find their own truth - what ever the media wants Americans to know and not know - happens! Like some strange fog came over the United States carrying an illness that sweeps away our own ability to think, reason and you logic - so that the opposite is true. The good are bad, the working are evil, the evil are good, the bad are right and the right must be persecuted. Because no matter where I go, that's what I read...
This is my first time here - and more than likely my last, (hence the length of this post). The reason? Well, look at your posts here - look at the actual value, the actual good. How appealing is the idea of a bunch of brainwashed robotic thugs who are holier than thou and who spend their time - not debating anything in particular - but making a good show of disrespect and contempt just the same. I find it sad that so many are so egocentric and believe to their very gut that because they were lucky enough to be born here and not to some mom in Siberia, they are entitled to what ever they wish, at the time they wish it and to hell with anyone else. I would think those babies born in places like Siberia should feel more like they need a break than the spoiled rotten people in the states who have so much and still get their feathers in an uproar when their temper tantrum expressed needs are not met or the president doesn't personally cater to them and kiss their lily white butts each morning..
.Strength lies not in defense but in attack.
Adolf Hitler
I suppose the democrats know this one well.... its a shame that they have taken their attacks NOT to terrorists or illegal aliens nor to those trying to pass Jessica's Law or to the judges who let convicted and admitted child rapists go without any jail time - not to a single solution at all for any problems - not they take their attack full force, as desperate people do when feeling this desperate... and attack their own president and their own country without rest year after year.
Whatever is begun in anger ends in shame.
Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Well done is better than well said.
Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
We would often be sorry if our wishes were gratified.
Aesop
Trust, but verify.
Ronald Reagan , Former U.S. President
What kills a skunk is the publicity it gives itself.
Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)
Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them.
Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
One ought, every day at least, to hear a little song, read a good poem,
see a fine picture and, if possible, speak a few reasonable words.
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)
News today: william jefferson, democrat congressman, today, makes it three money fraud cases by the left this year... hmm
That statement apparently means that this poster cannot in fact, enlighten anyone and has nothing to say. It is typical of the demoncrats -see it every day... If you cannot be persuaded by the record and achievements that have taken place, the fact that hate and negativity runs your party of desperate to win liberal 'leaders' (and I use that word extremely lightly), and the truth in facts when they see them, (i.e., constant state of denial), then personally, I would not post in any forum that the 'other team' "doesn't want to be enlightened" - you know, pride comes before a fall - and if your pride is worth the price you will and are paying in all your misery and denial, go for it! Sacrifice the unity, the truth, the honor... sacrifice your country to save your own bad pride... that's American!
It really makes you appreciate Ronald Reagan's achievement in bringing such disparate groups together. Of course magazines like National Review were constantly criticizing him throughout his presidency, and I'm guessing if Free Republic had existed then, he would have had his share of detractors on it just as President Bush does, some of whom would call him a communist, a socialist and no better than the democrats. Then, as now, they would have been wrong.
If most of what I read today regarding Bush happened when Reagan was alive and president, I think by now I would be completely taken in and turn totally hateful myself. The day and into the next few weeks after his death, the attacks were shameful, unbelievably cruel & I love Reagan - a lot! During his first run for office, I was not yet old enough to vote. So in order to help him get elected = legally - I worked at the Republican headquarters 3 to 4 days a week and putting a lot of my part time job on hold, (school and both a job and a volunteer position would have been too much at that time cuz my dad was also dying). I got a new kitten the day that Reagan died, her name is Reagan - I drove two hours to go to his library to see him and pay my respects, (and for me to go alone that far with my total lack of any sense of direction is big), and then to come back and relax and read some email - finding it and the chats and such all filled with these hateful things again, made me sick, literally.
I have always been a conservative, always been - always will be. I don't often say 'always' because for the most part there are exceptions to every rule and an open mind is essential to growth... but as far as core beliefs, values, fairness and ethics go... I just cannot see subscribing to the liberals and I cannot see this country as a safe one or one that will last to the end, holding on to what is good in life and not what is dark happening if the left took the seat from here on out. And I don't like to say "I am right, (correct), about everything, but what is going on now, all this desperation turning into dirty dirty politics - all the lies, all the hate - just to win elections is wrong and on this one I AM right.
Golly, I have a LOT of talk in me today, something crawled up something to get me going.. my whole reason for responding was just to say thanks for your post, it came at a great time, (I needed it!) and it is very much appreciated.
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