Posted on 05/19/2006 9:18:31 AM PDT by Bob J
Ths was never going to work. The House and Senate simply have too many RINO's to effect the kind of change that reformists dreamed of. Anyone who thought it would was blind. Thanks for the effort, but the strategery wasn't thought all the way through.
By bringing the immigration question to the top of the table, they have handed the dems a bat with which to beat us over the head for the next 20 years. Conservative and pub reformists looking for real progress and change will be characterized in the media as meanspirited racists and bigots while the dems nickel and dime the legislation and take the teeth out of any new law. They will be portrayed as the real champions.
Considering that there are a million immigration threads on this forum....you couldn't post your vanity into one of those?
Just curious, Bob J...
Who, in your opinion, elevated the immigration issue to crisis level?
Boy are you asking for a thrashing. My advice is to focus on and work against the Republicans who vote with the Democrats. We all know who they are.
I'll answer that one: the Libs and the Media, just as they did with the ports issue. They have learned how to split conservatives, which is their strategy for '06. Divide and conquer.
Wow, nothing like beating the choir when the minister gives a bad sermon.
Look, the republicans control both houses and the White House. Are you suggesting a better time to approach the issue would be when the democrats are in control?
It's our fault that the elected republicans, who outnumber the democrats, refuse to stand up to them?
Your anger is misdirected.
Let's see official language of US English - obviously a high Dem priority since Dem. Senate Minority Leader Reid called it racist.
Significant reduction in number of guest workers thanks loyal liberal Comrade Sessions. Yeah, the Dems are getting everything.
We need to punish the GOP which is consistantly voting 60% against/ 40% in favor of looser immigration rules. We should reward the Dems who consistantly voting 10% against and 90% in favor of loosened immigration. That would send the Senate GOP a message on immigration. Thanks for the brilliant suggestion.
They should construct the fence down where Mexico is 350 miles wide, then put the people South of that fence.
Yes. One only needs to look at the groups organizing all those marches, and the way the media portrayed and handled them to know which ideology is behind the festering boil now called Immigration with a capital I.
Yes that is right. Replace all the rino's with democrats and the problem will be solved. The 45 senate democrats and the 200 democrat congressmen are our friends. Let's get more of them.
Anyway...
Conservative and pub reformists looking for real progress and change will be characterized in the media as meanspirited racists and bigots while the dems nickel and dime the legislation and take the teeth out of any new law.
I disagree based on the fact that serious enforcement of the border has massive support across all party lines. Media smears will work just as good as the illegals protesting in the streets did.
IMO Bush should halt all immigration and all citizenship, and call for a nation wide vote.
An issue this important should not be demagogued by politicians for political advantage.
There are enormous pressures on politicians of both parties.
ping
party lines = citizen party lines, not politicians I mean.
Has the National Guard showed up at the border yet?
With the floodgates still open to non-English speaking aliens, this is of no worth...it means less than nothing
Significant reduction in number of guest workers thanks loyal liberal Comrade Sessions. Yeah, the Dems are getting everything.
Yes...reduced from 215 million over the next 20 years to 10 million...in addition to the 1 million a year under existing law...I guess its OK...but hard to call this any kind of a victory
What are you, the thread police?
It hasn't passed the house yet so there is still hope to stop this amnesty-guest worker deal. BTW, it has been a crisis for quite a while now, where have you been?
Technically, immigration propenents with their hundreds of thousands in their rallies across the US. But they were catalyzed by those calling for closing the borders.
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