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Harper may have used Afghan vote to ensare Ignatieff
Canadian Press via National Post ^ | Joan Bryden

Posted on 05/18/2006 8:33:58 PM PDT by Clive

OTTAWA -- After narrowly winning the vote to prolong the risky Afghanistan mission, a triumphant Stephen Harper crossed the floor of the Commons and threaded his way to the back of the Liberal benches to shake hands with Michael Ignatieff.

The prime minister's gesture may well turn out to be the political equivalent of the kiss of death for Ignatieff's bid to lead the Liberal party.

Ostensibly, Harper was simply thanking the rookie Toronto MP and acclaimed scholar for being one of only 24 Liberals to support the Conservative government's motion to extend the Afghanistan military deployment for two years.

But some Liberals suspect more partisan motives. They think Harper wanted to underscore the divisions the Afghanistan issue has created in Liberal ranks, particularly among the 11 leadership contenders.

And they suspect Harper wanted to embarass Ignatieff, a leadership frontrunner whose previous hawkish support for the Iraq war and President George W. Bush's ballistic missile defense scheme was already a source of deep concern for many Liberals.

In a party that harbours a strong strain of pacifism and anti-Americanism, the last thing a leadership candidate needs is a show of appreciation from Harper, whom Liberals on Parliament Hill have nicknamed "Shrub,'' as in "a little Bush.''

"Harper tried to play a little game with Ignatieff by going all the way to shake his hand,'' Montreal MP Denis Coderre, national co-chairman of Ignatieff's campaign, said in an interview Thursday.

Coderre himself voted against the motion, as did roughly three-quarters of the Liberal caucus, including half of Ignatieff's caucus supporters and six of his leadership rivals.

But Coderre dismissed suggestions that Ignatieff may have hurt his leadership chances by bucking popular sentiment in the party.

He contended that the divisions exposed by the vote were caused more by concern about the rushed process than by opposition to the Afghanistan mission. And he predicted that Liberals won't judge Ignatieff, "a man of many issues,'' strictly on the basis of one vote.

As if to prove that point, Ignatieff announced Thursday that three more MPs have joined his team. Two of them voted against extending the Afghanistan mission.

Scott Brison was the only other leadership contender to support the Tory motion. He shrugged off suggestions the vote will have any impact on his leadership hopes.

"I make my decisions not based on what is popular but on what is principled. Frankly, I think that's what Canadians deserve,'' Brison said in an interview.

Brison accused Harper of playing "petty, wedge politics'' with the issue. But he said he chose to support the motion anyway because he didn't want there to be any doubt about Parliament's support for the 2,200 Canadians soldiers serving in Afghanistan.

Rival candidates Stephane Dion, Ken Dryden, Maurizio Bevilacqua, Joe Volpe, Carolyn Bennett and Hedy Fry voted against, complaining that the government had provided little rationale for the extension and less time to debate it.

Bob Rae and Gerard Kennedy, neither of whom currently holds a federal seat, said they would have opposed the motion too had they had a vote. Toronto lawyer Martha Hall Findlay, the only other contender, has not weighed in on the issue.

While none of his rivals would directly criticize Ignatieff's decision to support the mission extension, several did leap at the chance to underline their different approach to the issue.

Rae, a former Ontario NDP premier, suggested Harper is setting a trap for Liberal leadership candidates, trying to immunize his government from future criticism should the Afghanistan campaign turn ugly. He observed that during the last presidential election, Bush was able to blunt any effective attack over his prosecution of the Iraq war by pointing out that his Democratic rival John Kerry voted in favour of the invasion.

"That's why I think you have to be very careful to not let them define you,'' Rae said in an interview.

He said the rushed Afghanistan vote was reminiscent of the way the Mike Harris Tories operated in Ontario, turning every issue, no matter how serious, to partisan advantage.

"They throw the ball at your head every time . . . Everything they do, it's not done for statesmanship, it's not done for anything else. It's done for partisan advantage,'' Rae said.

"The only thing you can do faced with that kind of a situation is not to be intimidated. These guys don't intimidate me at all. I know what they're all about. I've seen them in action.''


TOPICS: Canada; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: harper; ignatieff; stephenharper
Note that while the story is in National Post, it is a Canadian Press article.
1 posted on 05/18/2006 8:33:58 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Catholic Canadian; ...
How about that:

From one-dimensional "policy wonk" to "Niccolo Machiavelli" in 100 days.

Or is it "Sun Tzu"?

2 posted on 05/18/2006 8:36:48 PM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

the 'evil conservative' shows respect across party lines


3 posted on 05/18/2006 8:56:23 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Clive

Ignatieff, the direct descendent of high ranking functionaries in the governments of the last two Russian Czars, is an interesting, very intelligent writer, not a typical pansy liberal by any means, at least not in matters military or in foreign relations. He was a heavyweight liberal supporter of the 2003 invasion of Iraq. He's written from an American point of view very often, so I'm amazed that he holds office in Canada, and that he's a Canadian citizen. He taught at Harvard. I assumed he was American.


4 posted on 05/18/2006 9:26:48 PM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: Clive; Fair Go

Ignatieff is Canada's Kim Beazley.


5 posted on 05/18/2006 10:41:36 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: NZerFromHK

who's she?


6 posted on 05/19/2006 12:02:32 AM PDT by Murtyo
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To: Murtyo

who's she?

It's a he. He is the current leader of the Australian Labor Party, the major centre-left party in Australia. A defence hawk, if I remember correctly he supports Iraq actions (although many in his party oppose it). Probably more like Liberman than "mainstream liberals" by US standards.


7 posted on 05/19/2006 12:22:46 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: NZerFromHK

Would you call Beasley centre left? The ALP has to be pretty conservative to get elected and Beasley is no radical.


8 posted on 05/19/2006 1:22:37 AM PDT by Fair Go
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To: Fair Go

On Australian scale Beazley is certainly on the left relatively to John Howard. Of course by Canadian standards he would be a Conservative. In the US a Democrat just because he is relatively more to the left than, say, Rush Limbaugh (but it is not leftist by European standards). In Belgium or Finland 99% of people will want to drive Beazley out as he would be too conservative on defence-foreign affairs.

There are two definitions of the Left: a leftism in terms of absolute ideology, and a Left that is on that country's political spectrum. A very conservative person in Norway could well be a Laborite in Melbourne, and a very left-wing rep in rural Utah could well be a John Howard conservative in Sydney.


9 posted on 05/19/2006 2:03:10 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: Clive; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ...

Canada ping.

Please FReepmail me to get on or off this ping list.

10 posted on 05/19/2006 4:40:39 AM PDT by fanfan (I mean, I wouldn't be so angry with them if they didn't want to kill me!)
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To: fanfan

I can't get over an opposition party without a leader for a year!


11 posted on 05/19/2006 4:49:19 AM PDT by Fair Go
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To: beckett; fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ..
While no proof of a connection beyond the apparent one has so far been unearthed, re-read Ann Coulter's 'TREASON' with it's recounting of the activities of Soviet spies from Alger Hiss on down - involved, particularly, in founding the UN - and consider both the Ignatieff family pedigree and that every single one of them was a contemporary & apparent close 'friend' of George Ignatieff: Michael's late father & 'famed Canadian diplomat'.

Personally, I'm inclined to believe Ignatieff fil has little hope of being anointed Liberal Leader based upon his many expressed views which tend to vehemently alienate both those to his ideological left & right coupled with his apparent inability to successfully hide an overly professorial persona & accompanying absolute reek of arrogant noblesse oblige.

I'm one Riding over from him & know his local constituency very well & there's little middle ground on the guy: people either love him or hate him.
In our recent election, CPC polls showed it neck & neck within a week of the vote. But, for unknown reason(s), the Liberals' last minute fear campaign worked far better in Etobicoke-Lakeshore than just about anywhere else.
Unless he somehow secures the Liberal Leadership, Ignatieff is quite likely more than fair game next time out.
12 posted on 05/19/2006 8:28:16 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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