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Time to sink or graduate: At MIT, other schools, swim test is last barrier
Boston Globe ^ | May 8, 2006 | Douglas Belkin

Posted on 05/18/2006 3:46:05 AM PDT by billorites

Seven days before the test, Stephanie Yeh stood in her sorority house and cried.

An electrical engineering and computer science major, she was set to graduate near the top of her MIT class next month and start a six-figure job as a Wall Street analyst.

Just one test, terrifying to her, remained. She, like scores of undergraduates at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, had been putting it off for nearly four years. But Yeh and the others have to pass this exam to graduate.

She had to swim 100 yards, four lengths of a pool, without stopping.

The problem: Yeh never learned how to swim.

''Just having my face in the water really, really freaks me out," Yeh said the day before the test. ''So I never learned, I never really wanted to."

Hundreds of college seniors nationwide are similarly in deep. At Cornell, Dartmouth, and Columbia, where swim proficiency also is required, it is time to sink or swim. For students like Yeh, who has aced virtually every exam in her 22 years, it is time to face demons under the surface.

College swim requirements, which sprang up after World War II, have been in decline since the 1970s. One criticism: The test was biased against those who grew up away from the water.

Among the colleges dropping it: MIT's cross-town rival, Harvard. By 1997, just 14 percent of schools had a swim test, according to a North Carolina State University survey. And more schools have dropped the test since, though college is one of the last chances for mass instruction, said Frank Ormond III, an associate professor of physical education who conducted the North Carolina State survey.

Much to Yeh's chagrin, MIT has stayed the course. Carrie Moore, director of physical education at MIT, calls it....

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1 posted on 05/18/2006 3:46:09 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites

You'd think if these kids knew they'd have to pass this test eventually, they'd have enrolled in adult swim classes at the YMCA in their freshman year.

My sister was phobic about the water, she learned to swim when she was in her 40's and there were people in her class that were much older than her, and more phobic about the water, and they also learned to swim.


2 posted on 05/18/2006 3:49:52 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: billorites

As far as I'm concerned there is no excuse for able bodied people not to know how to swim these days.

I had no idea colleges required swimming to graduate.

On the other hand, they knew the requirements when they chose to go to school there.


3 posted on 05/18/2006 3:52:13 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: billorites
A related story from the Associated Press:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1628252/posts

4 posted on 05/18/2006 3:59:09 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: billorites
Barbie was almost an MIT graduate too. She had no problem with the swim test, but the rest of the curriculum caused her to say, "Math is hard!"

It's a four-year school. It's got a manadatory swim test. You have four years to prepare. Failure to pass the mandatory swim test is just like not being able to do the math. You know you have to do it or else you just can't hope to graduate. What's the problem?

5 posted on 05/18/2006 4:07:13 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: dawn53

My husband learned to swim in his 30's, and the program he was in had a special group of 3 or 4 adults who were terrified of the water.

I sympathize with these students' fears, but they had *four years* to take swimming lessons.


6 posted on 05/18/2006 4:11:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Knights of Columbus martyrs of Mexico, pray for us! Vivo Cristo Rey!)
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To: billorites
"One criticism: The test was biased against those who grew up away from the water."

That does it for me! Make those b*stards swim!
7 posted on 05/18/2006 4:15:50 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: billorites
But Yeh and the others have to pass this exam to graduate. She had to swim 100 yards, four lengths of a pool, without stopping.

That's stupid.

FMCDH(BITS)

8 posted on 05/18/2006 4:20:48 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: billorites

Well, if she wants to come to Wall Street and swim with the sharks.....


9 posted on 05/18/2006 4:25:35 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: billorites
Why do they need a swim test.
10 posted on 05/18/2006 4:25:36 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: ryan71

And math tests are biased against those with no aptitude for math. What is wrong with that?

All tests are biased against those who either don't care to study enough or who have no innate ability to pass the test.


11 posted on 05/18/2006 4:28:54 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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Because if the ship they were on to cross the Atlantic was hit by a torpedo, they would need to quickly swim 100 yards in order to escape the downward pull of the sinking ship.

(Boy Scouts trivia)


12 posted on 05/18/2006 4:29:37 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Knights of Columbus martyrs of Mexico, pray for us! Vivo Cristo Rey!)
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To: billorites
Whether you agree with the school's policy or not, this poor victim graduating from MIT with all its prestige had many years to overcome this 'phobia'. With all the social services available in Socialist Massachusetts, she could have been in therapy free for years to help her.

I have to play by the rules. She just wants to make stink.
13 posted on 05/18/2006 4:30:12 AM PDT by poobear (The most critical job that Americans will not do (just illegals): Vote for Democrats!)
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To: nothingnew

Perhaps MIT does not want to graduate people who are smart enough to do MIT academic work, but not bright enough to prepare for a basic life skills test - IOW, too smart to be practical. I applaud MIT.


14 posted on 05/18/2006 4:31:24 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: DB

I went to MIT (a long time ago) and I had no idea there was a swim test until I got there. I couldn't swim either, I had had little access to a pool growing up and it's pretty hard to learn to swim in a rough ocean. If you read the article carefully you had to pass the test OR take a beginning swim class. I took the class, passed the test after a couple of weeks. I was glad they had this requirement. The article tries to gloss over the fact she could have just taken the class, never even tried to do the test, and still met the requirement. "I was too busy". I call BS, it's MIT, everyone's busy, she just didn't want to do it.


15 posted on 05/18/2006 4:31:34 AM PDT by CA_soon_gone
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To: billorites

A swim test to graduate??? Never heard of such. It's ridiculous. What does swimming have to do with, well, with anything. It must be a northern thing.

Back to the article - she knew 4 years ago so no sympathies.


16 posted on 05/18/2006 4:32:40 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: CA_soon_gone

If she's in a sorority, she was taking plenty of time off from studying.


17 posted on 05/18/2006 4:32:49 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Knights of Columbus martyrs of Mexico, pray for us! Vivo Cristo Rey!)
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LOL thanks makes sense scratches head thoughtfully.


18 posted on 05/18/2006 4:36:49 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: mtbopfuyn
A swim test to graduate??? Never heard of such. It's ridiculous. What does swimming have to do with, well, with anything.

One might ask the same question about a whole list of elective requirements in any degree program. Why was it necessary to take an Astronomy Class or a Biology Lab to complete a BS in Business Administration?

19 posted on 05/18/2006 4:53:00 AM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: WideGlide
Swimming is easy, she should try this.


20 posted on 05/18/2006 5:03:33 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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