"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

[Pukin Dog]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.

[nopardons]

Look, n00b, you've mad wild, spurious claims, argued with the Mods, and tried to take me on. I suggest that you quit, before you are ZOTTED. A Mod has already told you, politely, that you're dead wrong and you're still at it; this time with me. The baiting isn't going to work! All you've managed to do, is out yourself.

[votelife]

excellent rant...it's not like were in the middle of a war or something. It's amazing how much people here disrespect the President.

[nopardons]

His home page is SICK!

[Publius6961]

For all the talk on immigration on FR, I don't hear much of it at the water cooler.

Give rational people a little credit.

After 6 years of unfailing enthusiastic support and camaraderie in celebrating Cinco de Mayo at work, this year it came and went (uncelebrated) without a word being said about it.

Some things, at certain times, are best not discussed at the water cooler.

[Quix]

Goodness no.

What a waste. I hate rehashing all that old stuff.

Besides, most of mine is a mishmash at this point since it's been decades since I studied the original docs of the puppet masters' own organizations. Though lot of the stuff on the web is essentially the same thing.

Anyway--happy to let it go. We aren't likely to change one another's minds on it anyway!

So I just love you as you are and learn what I can from you.

LUB
Heading to bed shortly.

[teenyelliott]

Oh, for goodness sake, Toby is not a troll.

And I do know that for a fact.

[Toby06]

please indicate wherein I tried to take you on? I have big shoulders, but I'd bet you are "way too much of a man" for me to shoulder.

I apologized to the mod for my claim, which may be spurious becaus it is hearsay, but is hardly wild.

Thanks for the lovely suggestions.It's time for a nice drink and a cigar, I do say.

[Toby06]

did you notice the last line in my homepage is a quote from GWB's state of the union address, puth there within 24 hours of it's utterance at said speech?

[JRandomFreeper]

No. I support the GOP on principle, and vote primary for the person that is most pro-life, pro-gun. That is a rule.

During the general election, if the republican is electable without me, I vote for the individual that is most pro-life, and pro-gun. If the issue is questionable.... I vote party to keep away from the dims. That is a rule.

I work for the GOP for groundwork during both elections. Because they are better than the alternative. That is a rule.

I have rule-sets that determine what I do. And they are based on pro-life, pro-gun.

I could draw a NAND circuit diagram showing the logic. But some people don't understand logic. Or even know who Aristotle was....

/johnny

[George W. Bush]

1 Starr County TX: 86.94% Clinton; 10.41% Dole

Great finds there. I'd like to find more comprehensive info, both national and by states/counties for multiple elections. Can't seem to find it.

[CyberAnt]

"... it's really okay to be pissed off at your reps ..."

YES IT IS - and to be THE MOST EFFECTIVE with your comments - CALL YOUR REPS LOCAL OFFICE - it works everytime.

Again - follow Pukin's comments - be respectful. Don't call them names. Speak your mind in a controlled and meaningful manner. Do not yell and carry on like a crazy person - even if inside you are ready to punch their lights out. And .. remember this too .. the person answering the phone is probably a volunteer so please don't do anything to cause them to discount your comments - such as throwing the info in the trash. Hmmmm??

[Knitting A Conundrum]

A most excellent rant.

Back in the way back when I had a patch on my jeans that said, "If you're not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem."

When we sit here and get frustrated and start raling away at "They," I have discovered it's really time to do something myself. It may mean getting involved at the grass roots to throw the bums who are too RINOy out. It may mean encouraging people to get out and vote. It may mean doing one's homework.

But it should never mean dropping a 20 lb. bowling ball on my foot because I am throwing a temper tantrum in my frustration, or cutting my nose off to spite my face.

And it's always better to have a half filled cup than an empty one.

And Rome wasn't built in a day, and all those other platitudes which are old and trite and true.

So I will not pour fuel on the fire, but I will say one step at a time, and if we take enough steps in the right direction, we might just end up at our destination. But we won't if we circle around backwards. Or if we stop moving.

IMHO, of course.

[trussell]

It's an attempt at humor...I'm sorry you can't see that. Please know he is not a troll...he is a friend, and I would hate to see him banned because you didn't agree with his style. I thought part of being a conservative meant you were able to be an individual with your own freedom of thought

[nopardons]

That's okay...we'll just let sleeping dogs lie.

Good night, my FRiend; pleasant dreams.

[MissAmericanPie]

I'm trying to be as clear as I can, and speak right from my heart. I do not understand why so many people are not seeing the forest for the trees.

The people at the top of the Republican Party, and Demonrat Party are globalists. The only argument between them is which way to jump, into the E.U. or to create a united Western Hemisphere.

This is not some secret plot, some tin foil hat theory, they have come right out with their plans for all to see. We can quote them, they are not hiding it, but they are also not "defining it" or what it's implementation actually means.

What has them sweating bullets right now is that the issue of illegal immigration and it's future implications for the continuing sovereignty of this nation and it's sovereign documents such as the Constitution, has united both democrat and republican bases in fear and dread of this Senate bill.

They are not sure of what our reaction will be. They are not really sweating us giving the Republican Party a royal paddling at the polls. The Republican elites are only worried about the defeat of their "Western Hemisphere" plans by having the ball thrown to the "Unite with the E.U." crowd known as demonrats.

Meanwhile the average joe is so scared spitless to face reality that he shuts his eyes tight and hides under the bed hoping if he just keeps from facing the monster it will go away. It ain't going away. Not for the Demonrat base or the Republican base.

So while these parties keep making noises and offering less than useless solutions that eventually get them what they are really after, we keep pretending they are sincere efforts made by less than bright politicians trying to walk a international and political tight rope. When the only tight rope both parties are walking is how to romance your sovereign nationhood out from under you. Placing Constitutional law in a useless position behind international and trade laws. The Supreme Court makes no secret that they are busy studying international law and where and how it will conflict with Constitutional law. If there is a conflict between the two guess which loses? Our Founding Fathers recognized this and warned us that we could and would lose our freedoms if we joined in entangling international treaties that would trump the Constitution.

And what's worse, some on this site fully understand what's up and think it's a great economic idea. To hell with nationhood and Constitutional protections when there is a profit to be made. In God We Trust? Heck no, not for them, for them it's "In the appointed board of directors we trust", for our human rights, our economic wealth, and our future.

I wish with all my heart that I was wrong, but I'm not. Some how, some way, we must take the reins of the Party from the hands of the globalists, both parties need to seek that same effort, that is where our focus needs to be if we are to stand any chance at all.

[George W. Bush]

did you notice the last line in my homepage...

Your homepage is a hoot. But not to politically correct nanny types.

[JRandomFreeper]

and to be THE MOST EFFECTIVE with your comments

Call your county party rep. They are the ones that suffer if you don't pay up, and they HAVE the ear of the elected official.

/johnny

[Publius6961]

Most of the Bushbots here fail to realize the importance of immigration. It truly is unlike any other issue of the day.

This has been my position as long as I can remember. It is self-evident to me. Temporary victories (in the historic long term) are all totally useless and irrelevant if the value of legitimate citizen ballots is watered down or eliminated.

Yes, that includes homeland security, all the rights in the BOR, the WOT and anything else you care to name.

The muslims, certainly, and the illegal mexicans, increasingly are absolutely convinced that they can and should restructure our Constitutional Representative Republic to their own image through the ballot box.

And our political and judicial system is incrementally and increasingly allowing them to.
We can continue ignoring that at our own peril.

[Rodney King]

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections.

Bear in mind please that the President does not agree with us on that. We tried it in Pennslyvania and the President campaigned for Specter. We are trying it now in RI and the RNC is working against us. You are right in theory, but it is not workable in practive because the party itself is against us. What are we left to do? (All that being said, I appreciate your post even though I don't totally agree with it).

[TaxRelief]

For all the talk on immigration on FR, I don't hear much of it at the water cooler.

Three weeks ago, I would have agreed with you, but this weekend, it seemed to be THE social topic of conversation. No one is mentioning it at work, though, because NO ONE wants to be sent back to diversity school.