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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: saminfl
I notice that you have been here since 1999. Wasn't the illegal alien problem occurring then? did you post about it?

The illegal alien issue has been around for decades, and yes, I've posted about it before. Not too many people were interested in the issue over the past several years, though. Out of sight, out of mind, I suppose.

But today, the issue is in the public limelight and has gained large attention. There is no better time to address the issue than now. The people have seen the elephant in the living room and most want it out. Unfortunately, other than the House Republicans, there doesn't seem to be many in government that want to do what's necessary.

It is a hinge issue for many, and for good reason. If this invasion isn't stemmed and corrected, this country will cease to exist in any form resembling the constitutional republic that it is (or at least was). The marches in recent weeks clearly illustrated the intent of a large number of illegals and their supporters. And their intent clearly isn't to become productive, tax-paying Republicans.

1,301 posted on 05/17/2006 12:27:56 PM PDT by meyer (Permanently boycott all businesses that close for the May 1st illegal alien march!)
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To: Steelerfan
Land mines may be a stupid idea (I think they are). That doesn't mean that the poster suggesting them is stupid. MTCW is that we need to keep that distinction in mind, because we are eating some of our own here, which is sad and unnecessary.

Well not necessarily stupid in the lack of smarts context (well maybe even then sometimes), but waaaay over the top in a manner that does not stand for conservative ideals by any means.

Did you read the Vox Day article from yesterday in WND? Where he compares how Germany was able to rid itself of 6 million Jews in a short time and how we ought to be able to just as easily deport illegals. NEVER ONCE giving recognition to the fact the Nazi's got rid of them via extermination.

Land mines, German tactics...waaaay over the top commentary that has no place in rational discussion. THAT'S what we are stating won't be tolerated here anymore.

What's sad is that many well stated, thoughtful and insightful FReepers have quit posting here because of the ongoing Bush bashing from the anti-illegals. Which is the primary objective of some of them.

1,303 posted on 05/17/2006 12:28:20 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (God bless our fine military and their families.)
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To: ClancyJ

>>You must have posted to the wrong person - I did not post on moderators.<<

Now I understand how I posted the wrong paste to Peach. I flipped it with a response to you. I apologize to both of you. I'm learning to use the Firefox auto-copy plugin and screwed up.


1,304 posted on 05/17/2006 12:28:38 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: Smogger

Thanks...just dam. :(


1,305 posted on 05/17/2006 12:28:44 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: onyx

That's about 19% of the Southern border. I'm not happy. The House version is a lot closer to a true fence, although it still is too short.


1,306 posted on 05/17/2006 12:28:48 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Smogger

Expect attacks from the Obsessed for posting such rationality.


1,307 posted on 05/17/2006 12:28:49 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Toby06

And you wonder why people consider you a troll?


1,308 posted on 05/17/2006 12:28:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Admin Moderator
This thread has morphed into an airing of grievances...here's mine.

Its an awareness thing.

First I learned via the OFST of some lady posters that got banned and so I reviewed their posting history.
Then I started looking at male posters and their comments about women. Not banned.
I never realized before how condescending some people were on here towards women. Now I see it and I dont like it. In fact recently even John Robinson and I exchanged a short comment about it.



BTW, I dont know what gender the mods are.

Lets start...

Im a dude. What are you?
1,309 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:06 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com/)
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To: CougarGA7

I guess some people want to see more pictures like the one we saw that Easter Saturday Morning. A little boy cowering in a closet while a masked soldier pointed a rifle at him.


1,310 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:23 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Flyer

Bookmark.

Like I'm really gonna come back later and try to catch up on the next 1,200 posts.


1,311 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:25 PM PDT by Flyer (Tag line FINALLY approved by humblegunner)
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To: Recovering_Democrat; Pukin Dog
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda.

Today, Rush talked about the Herndon Virginia primaries that kicked out all the people responsible for okaying the Day Laborer Shelter.

This news spread to Pennsylvania where certain republicans were trashed in their primaries.

Rush says that this is the type of message that is reaching the politicians up for reelection.

So....it seems to be working.

1,312 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:52 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: CougarGA7

We could also use all those pit bulls that everyone seems to hate :)


1,313 posted on 05/17/2006 12:29:58 PM PDT by najida (Love like you've never been hurt, work like you don't need the money, dance like nobodys watching.)
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To: Mo1; onyx

English as official language amendment coming up next.


1,314 posted on 05/17/2006 12:30:01 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Lead Moderator
Gee, how about both? Ever heard of walking and chewing gum at the same time? Look into it.

How about doing border security first? That is hardly a position held only by the boxcar/landmine crowd (as you like to refer to us) - Krauthammer agrees, and he's for allowing the illegals already here to stay.

Any legislation dealing with illegals already here, from forced deportation to amnesty to a guest worker program, will fail as long as illegals can continue to come across the border by the millions.

That is the problem with Bush's current stance - sending a few thousand NG troops to the border for part time non-enforcement duty does little to improve border security. But ever since Bush started talking seriously about a guest worker program, illegal crossings have jumped. That right there is a solid indication that we need to have security in place before changing any existing laws.

1,315 posted on 05/17/2006 12:30:03 PM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
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To: George W. Bush; onyx
onyx??? Liberal??? ROFLOL!!

That is the most preposterous thing you have EVER said on FR, Georgie, and that is saying something!

Wow...........I'm laughing here, onyx.

1,316 posted on 05/17/2006 12:30:15 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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To: ClancyJ
You can't and watch it - I'm mad.

Ooo, scary!

You make some good points and we are not entirely in disagreement. However, you really shouldn't let my posts or others get you so riled.
We are on the same side here, basically... at least, I think so.

1,317 posted on 05/17/2006 12:30:17 PM PDT by Constitution Day (Some Dare Call It Amnesty)
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To: wallcrawlr

Do you like cheese?


1,318 posted on 05/17/2006 12:30:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: BlueStateDepression

LOL -- a CYA vote for certain, as were many of the democrats' votes.

I am THRILLED it passed!


1,319 posted on 05/17/2006 12:30:31 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: The Toll

Please see my Post 1289 as an answer to your post - I'm getting a little tired of typing.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1633739/posts?page=1289#1289


1,320 posted on 05/17/2006 12:30:57 PM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
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