Posted on 05/15/2006 7:45:36 PM PDT by bobsunshine
Today conservatives and Americans across this nation, especially those who voted for George W Bush, should be thankful for what we have accomplished and for having George Bush as President. My tolerance for the whiners who don’t get all they want, or who say the pace of getting America to become more responsive to conservative ideas is too slow, is totally used up. Tonight, when George Bush speaks his is going to discuss how we can take SOME steps towards getting a handle on immigration and the security threats it represents.
I want to give thanks to W for taking the war to the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and for not shrinking from his course when the French and Germans bawked, when the UN whimpered, when the left wailed and when the right ran away.
I want to thank him for protecting all our families and neighbors since 9-11.
I want to thank him for reducing taxes and pulling this economy together since my family just about went under due to the economic hits from 9-11, and now I am working a dream job exploring the solar system.
I want to thank W for protecting the lives of some of the embryos who otherwise would have become a product to harvest for spare cells (to make spare parts).
I want to thank W for making the education system accountable and force it to produce statistics on its performance.
Thanks also for giving my 80+year old parents a prescription drug plan so they can live out their lives with dignity and in the best health preventive medicine can offer. I know that at their age to fix things once their broken is much harder than keeping them from breaking in the first place.
Thank you as well to the immigrants who come here and extend the American fabric and re-establish respect for the family and the work ethic. I still believe working without papers is aking to driving a car which is not properly registered. While not legal, it pales next to the people I deal with everyday in my 75 mile commute on the busy and dangerous DC Beltway. For perspective, I do not thank all the drivers chatting on the phone, reading, eating, doing their face who risk my LIFE with their casualness. I am less concerned about the immigrant workers coming to do top notch work on my house than the insane drivers who could kill me or my family. Let’s not even discuss how little thanks I have for drunk drivers (and drunk is only a few drinks away).
I want to thank LJSTrata for putting up with me for so long and keeping this site going through its first Blogoversart (5/18/06).
I owe a big thanks to Powerline this week for naming us Blog of the Week - which is an extreme honor we will cherish.
I want to thank my kids and family for being who they are.
I do not have any words of thanks to he those who leak national secrets to the media because they cannot address their issues through our established political processes. None. Anomous leaks are not a badge of honor.
I have no words of thanks to those who are so frustrated they have turned on Bush when he needs our support, and threaten to sit out elections. Why would I have any thanks for that kind of action? I am thankful we avoided a President Gore and President Kerry. Gore would have lost his mind after 9-11 (look at how he handled the 2000 election). And Kerry would have been so confused about what to do he would have signed legislation beforing vetoing it.
I am thankful for our new allies in Iraq, Afgahnistan, the UAE, Qatar and Pakistan. They are not perfect allies, but they are better than enemies. Just like Bush is 100 fold better than a manic Gore or a confused Kerry. I thank Bush for doing all he did, and doing it despite the naysayers and quitters, the moaners and whiners, and especially the serial surrenderers. Thanks George Bush. And no thanks goes to anyone who gives us nothing on immigration because they could not get all they wanted. I am tired of the zero sum game. It is a game for fools.
You must not listen to Lou Dobbs very often.
yes, lets be serious...1.9 billion for border security....100's of billions for Iraq....that makes sense...
We are a magnet for those seeking liberty and prosperiety, and IMHO those who profit from paying substandard wages to illegals are far more to blame than the POTUS
We have 12,000 BP agents compared to the NYPD's 35,000 personnel. We spent $11 to $18 billion a year enforcing the no-fly zones in Iraq. We are not serious about border security. Any crowing about the percentage increases in BP agents and funding is just PR and does not meet our real requirements.
My daddy told me that you NEVER let your opponent beat you now matter what. You NEVER win by losing. You win by winning.
Clearly, this is where the brunt of the blame lies. But you must understand that having 500,000 illegal immigrants marching down the streets of Los Angeles with businesses giving the thumbs up and law enforcement / INS doing nothing is more than a little frustrating.
We have had a major influx of a foreign population in to this nation, and not only is nothing being done about it, it appears as though it is being encouraged, Again, more than a little frustrating.
And while you enjoy calling people names and such for not toeing the line, some people find that mass demonstrations by a foreign population on our soil a little scary. I was horrified, and I live several thousand miles away from Los Angeles.
Most people are demanding something needs to be done NOW because it appears that we are running out of later. Consider it knee-jerk or whatever, but I have always been of the mindset that conservatives liked slow progress, maintaining traditional values and mores, and being a patriot to ones own country.
Did you honestly expect a different reaction to a sudden mass demonstrations of foreign nationals, demanding things that by law they have no entitlement to?
And I think the real sticking point here is that guys like you only see the reaction as attacks against Bush. This isn't about Bush. Bush just happens to be sitting in the White House while this matter reaches a crisis. Bush is the target because he is the face of the government that everyone knows and recognizes. Like it or not, people here and elsewhere think he has the power to wave a magic wand and make everything better (like that ridiculous nonsense about when Bush got to New Orleans after Katrina or that moronic My Pet Goat / 911 crap the left loves to spout).
I'd like to apologize for it, but unfortunately this is simply human nature. If you are getting audited by the IRS, you typically blame / hate the auditor, not the institution. Human nature.
What I'd really like to see is both sides of this issue cut the name calling crap and wait for the dust to settle. If you need to vent here or elsewhere, do it and get it out of your system. I did a few days ago and now I can approach this issue a little more rationally.
And I have the feeling that this will be skimmed and taken the wrong way (long posts usually are) and I will be flamed. Well, have at it.
APf
Who cares what Lou Dobbs has to say about anything?
Yes, it does. Good evening.
I think I could watch James Carville and Paul Begala before Lou Dobbs, because at least James Carville and Begala are consistant
They are coming because they want a better life and more opportunity. We have a long term problem. We share a border with a poor, third world country of 107 million with a burgeoning population with a median age of 25. 40% of the people live below their poverty level. We also have thousands more transiting that country from even poorer countries in Central America. If you think the numbers are high now, wait another 10 to 20 years when the demographic and economic pressures increase. They are going to try to enter the US regardless of whether we try to enforce employer sanctions and issue ID cards to the already up to 20 million already here.
Being poor and jobless in America is better than being poor and jobless in Mexico. Moreover, there is a huge support netork within the US to give them shelter, food, and jobs.
According to the the 2000 census figures, there are 9 million Mexican-born residents of the US with 4 million in California alone, i.e., about one in every eight residents of California was born in Mexico. In fact, there are 9 million foreign born residents of California or one in every four people in the state. Our national Hispanic population is around 40 million. I believe these figures are seriously understated.
We are not going to legislate our way out of the problem using employer sanctions and tracking systems. The economic and demographic pressures are too great to be contained by other than border security (including rounding up people who overstay their visas), including fences as appropriate security wise.
Mexico is encouraging the flow of migrants to America because it acts as a pressure release valve for political dissent and it is the largest source of revenue, even more than the sale of oil. The tidal wave is just beginning. The more we continue to delude ourselves that we can control the flood of illegal immigrants through employer sanctions, guest worker programs, and legalization of those already here, the worse it will get.
If you were poor and undeducated in Mexico or Central America and knew that there was no hope or opportunity of improving your situation, wouldn't you want to step across a relatively undefended border and enter the richest, freest country in the world that has millions of your compatriots already living there? The bottom line is that they are not going home and more are on the way in greater numbers. It is common sense.
We could put our entire military on the Southern Border and they will find a way to come here from Canada.
Now you are being silly. Do you really think that 150,000 Mexicans and others from Latin America a month are going to transit Canada? Why aren't the Haitians doing it now?
We are a magnet for those seeking liberty and prosperiety, and IMHO those who profit from paying substandard wages to illegals are far more to blame than the POTUS
POTUS is responsible for enforcing the immigration laws we now have on the books. He is the CIC responsible for protecting our international borders. The buck stops there.
"And I think the real sticking point here is that guys like you only see the reaction as attacks against Bush. This isn't about Bush. Bush just happens to be sitting in the White House while this matter reaches a crisis. Bush is the target because he is the face of the government that everyone knows and recognizes. Like it or not, people here and elsewhere think he has the power to wave a magic wand and make everything better (like that ridiculous nonsense about when Bush got to New Orleans after Katrina or that moronic My Pet Goat / 911 crap the left loves to spout)."
If the excuse for all this Bush bashing over this issue is because of perception, then you have done a better job explaining my points better than me. I expect rationally thinking conservatives not to justify their hatred for Bush ...
"because he is the face of the government that everyone knows and recognizes."
I leave that simple minded thinking to liberals who go through life acting on emotions instead of reality and common sense.
Thanks for making my point
Obviously Peach does.
If the Senate bill passes, the GOP will be in permanent minority status. As the demonstrators chanted a few weeks ago, "Today we march, tomorrow we vote." It was the the Dems who addressed the crowds. Kennedy, Moran, and Hillary. If our political leaders of both parties want to pander to the Latino vote, the US has jumped the shark and we are on the glide path to a third world country. Without true border security, we will be overwhelmed in a few decades.
You may leave it to whomever you wish. Human beings are pretty easy to predict. However, I think you missed my point by a longshot. It wasn't meant to be used as a cudgel against people that you disagree with. Sorry I wasn't more clear.
APf
Even if the Senate passes a bill, it will go to conference to be reconciled with the House bill. Thanks to what the POTUS proposed tonight, a more conservative bill is likely to come our of conference.
And you seem to be a charter member.
We can only hope that the House bill is the only one to survive this debacle. I can recall Bush signing McCain-Feingold and saying he had serious reservations about parts of it being unconstitutional. Still he signed it. He depended upon the Supreme Court to the dirty work for him. It didn't work out that way and now we have restrictions on political speech.
Our job is to cut through this BS and not surrender to "What Polls say we think"
Predictable human beings are uninformed human beings, just what the liberals want
bttt
Yikes, I must be tired, ..... dismiss = Accept
Good Night all
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