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To: kabar
They are re-entering and staying because of who is hiring them, take away the honey and there will be no Bee's. We could put our entire military on the Southern Border and they will find a way to come here from Canada. We are where 90% of the worlds population would like to live, nobody matches our economy, nobody matches our freedoms, and nobody matches our strength.

We are a magnet for those seeking liberty and prosperiety, and IMHO those who profit from paying substandard wages to illegals are far more to blame than the POTUS

163 posted on 05/15/2006 10:43:59 PM PDT by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: MJY1288
They are re-entering and staying because of who is hiring them, take away the honey and there will be no Bee's. .

They are coming because they want a better life and more opportunity. We have a long term problem. We share a border with a poor, third world country of 107 million with a burgeoning population with a median age of 25. 40% of the people live below their poverty level. We also have thousands more transiting that country from even poorer countries in Central America. If you think the numbers are high now, wait another 10 to 20 years when the demographic and economic pressures increase. They are going to try to enter the US regardless of whether we try to enforce employer sanctions and issue ID cards to the already up to 20 million already here.

Being poor and jobless in America is better than being poor and jobless in Mexico. Moreover, there is a huge support netork within the US to give them shelter, food, and jobs.

According to the the 2000 census figures, there are 9 million Mexican-born residents of the US with 4 million in California alone, i.e., about one in every eight residents of California was born in Mexico. In fact, there are 9 million foreign born residents of California or one in every four people in the state. Our national Hispanic population is around 40 million. I believe these figures are seriously understated.

We are not going to legislate our way out of the problem using employer sanctions and tracking systems. The economic and demographic pressures are too great to be contained by other than border security (including rounding up people who overstay their visas), including fences as appropriate security wise.

Mexico is encouraging the flow of migrants to America because it acts as a pressure release valve for political dissent and it is the largest source of revenue, even more than the sale of oil. The tidal wave is just beginning. The more we continue to delude ourselves that we can control the flood of illegal immigrants through employer sanctions, guest worker programs, and legalization of those already here, the worse it will get.

If you were poor and undeducated in Mexico or Central America and knew that there was no hope or opportunity of improving your situation, wouldn't you want to step across a relatively undefended border and enter the richest, freest country in the world that has millions of your compatriots already living there? The bottom line is that they are not going home and more are on the way in greater numbers. It is common sense.

We could put our entire military on the Southern Border and they will find a way to come here from Canada.

Now you are being silly. Do you really think that 150,000 Mexicans and others from Latin America a month are going to transit Canada? Why aren't the Haitians doing it now?

We are a magnet for those seeking liberty and prosperiety, and IMHO those who profit from paying substandard wages to illegals are far more to blame than the POTUS

POTUS is responsible for enforcing the immigration laws we now have on the books. He is the CIC responsible for protecting our international borders. The buck stops there.

170 posted on 05/15/2006 10:58:14 PM PDT by kabar
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To: MJY1288

If the Senate bill passes, the GOP will be in permanent minority status. As the demonstrators chanted a few weeks ago, "Today we march, tomorrow we vote." It was the the Dems who addressed the crowds. Kennedy, Moran, and Hillary. If our political leaders of both parties want to pander to the Latino vote, the US has jumped the shark and we are on the glide path to a third world country. Without true border security, we will be overwhelmed in a few decades.


173 posted on 05/15/2006 11:07:29 PM PDT by kabar
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